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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,825 Views)
King Billy
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5 Jan 2015, 02:24
The killer is one of the following, in my opinion…

Whitney or Denise.

Can't decide which one...
See I can't see it being Denise because I don't think she would've handed Lucys phone/purse to Ian and Jane if she did it. I think she would've paniced and destroyed them in the faithful destroyer of evidence, the canal.

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Planck
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I love how this thread has seen fifteen more pages since the last episode. Lets reach 200!
Edited by Planck, 5 Jan 2015, 11:11.
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Fehnder
5 Jan 2015, 03:01
I think les and pam are only suspects as the flashback will perhaps involve them by showing what they were really up to that night (regarding their son)

I'm hoping we get to see all the suspects and what they were really doing
I hope so yes, one important point to think about - did Lucy somehow know about Pam and Les's mercy killing of their son?

Maybe there are further nefarious dealings goings on at that funeral parlour that we don't yet know about.

Remember one scene, Les' shifty nature when he took a bundle of cash from Charlie Cotton on the day of Nick Cotton's funeral.

Who was the 'extra' corpse?

Both Pam and Les say they were at home together watching a movie on the night in question...
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I'm convinced its Whitney. I really think the very minor clues have always been there. I also think Jane is becoming too obvious now as a red herring. Even though her being the killer is logical.

I can't speak for everyone but would actually have great trouble in believing Jane and Ian in particular killed Lucy because it just hasn't been played that way. Certainly not from Ian's point of view.

I do wonder though if the 11 suspect thing is a con... wasn't it suggested earlier in the topic that Lucy may have seen Ian with Rainie and then later confronted Rainie about it. What if the killer was Rainie, I would buy that as I think it would work but I could see people feeling cheated.
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maybe abi and max think the accident happened at the car lot when she hit her head but she had another showdown afterwards with someone else and that blow contributed to the injury already sustained and the person left the scene thinking she would just get bk up and then max and abi find her close to the car lot and disposed of the body on the common thinking they killed her?
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Winters
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Imagine some poor person having to read through and analyse this thread when it's over. That would be like torture, having to read through all this again from scratch.
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5 Jan 2015, 12:54
I can't speak for everyone but would actually have great trouble in believing Jane and Ian in particular killed Lucy because it just hasn't been played that way. Certainly not from Ian's point of view.
But isn't that the point though? It's not going to turn out anything like it's been played.
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To the majority of viewers, there aren't really any clues (aside from the obvious, car lot fall, what Emma said to max)

I rarely post about ee on Facebook but last night I did and I got a sea of "how do youcknow all this" and various ideas about abi because "she tried to drown Lauren obviously "!!

To the casual viewer I think it's wide open as to who it could be.

We have probably overanalysed this to death as I do think Emma knew slightly more than we do in terms of police evidence. We aren't supposed to be able to guess but after it should all make sense. I feel sorry for dtc if he reads stuff on here, he must have sleepless nights trying to find ways of making sure we can't get the secret out of the show. After all there's loads of people re watching fatboys video, past episodes and the Lucy story so far!

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When I heard Ben Hardy was leaving I started to see it that way, as I just didn't think any of the others would be very exciting, and I didn't really think it would be Peter.

There are others in the show who could have made a strong impression, Sharon, Phil, Dot, even Kat and Roxy, all long-standing characters who've been featured much this year, but it won't be any of them as there is no background for it now. Max could have been good but his profile has been lowered so much since, and he was also seeing her just before she died, so it would be a bit obvious.

But the others that are left would just be unfulfilling. Sure, it could make for an okay reveal, but not an amazing reveal. In a common murder drama any of them would have been fine, as those reveals aren't usually that great, but not in EE after all this build-up and for its anneversary. Psychologically, I just can't make any sense of it.
Edited by Winters, 5 Jan 2015, 14:17.
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MrJames
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They've made it solvable.

Right from the beginning they've said that they wanted the outcome to make sense, and they are physically encouraging people to solve it by opening the contest.

The Simpsons made 'Who shot Mr Burns?' purposefully solvable by including just the right amount of clues in the episodes themselves. Not like Broadchurch which relied on pure speculation.

Emma's movements in her last two episodes alive are probably the most important material that we've had.
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I think it's Lee and Whitney, or it's Abi and Max. I think I'll go with the latter.
"They don't know that we know that they know"
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Fehnder
5 Jan 2015, 13:41
After all there's loads of people re watching fatboys video, past episodes and the Lucy story so far!

I admit to having a link to Fatboy's video and a map of Albert Square on my desktop for easy reference :$
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Iit's funny how this time last year Abi would've been the joke answer. Oh its Abi but because of the direction DTC has took her characters (and others like Jane, Peter and even Denise) we find ourselves doubting their previous innocence.

Personally as much as it makes sense for it to be Abi or Max, I think it would be a mistake now that Lauren will be out the way of the aftermath. Jane, Whitney, Cindy or as much as it breaks my heart Denise because we haven't really explored their movements on that night in depth. I think the killer will be female.
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The more chatter and indication that its Max, even if its in jest leads us to be live its some one other, I just don't want it to be Ian since he's been there from the beginning and can put on a subtle perfomance yet still be an agrivating git
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5 Jan 2015, 14:27
Emma's movements in her last two episodes alive are probably the most important material that we've had.
I've been wrecking my brain trying to figure out what the murderer will have done following his or her meeting with Emma in the park...

After all, they weren't to know Emma would die before the day was out, so they must have been frantic with worry over whether Emma would go to the police and whether they would be arrested anytime soon.

But it would seem the majority of our suspects were more than happy to be going for a New Year's drink in the Vic, instead of stuffing some clothes into a holdall and legging it. I wonder why that is...
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I think someone had a scruffle with her after she left max at the car lot, she met someone outside and whoever she bumped into turned abit violent and the next blow was critical. She prob tried to walk off thinking nothing of it as some people do but collapsed due to her injuries moments later and the person who actually was with her doesn't realise they caused her oncoming death and walked away thinking she was fine.

after leaving the car lot on the way home abi and max prob found her outside laying unconsious on the floor and then found her to be dead and decided believing they was responsible disposed her body on the common to cover up the evidence

the murder couldn't have been planned as it looked sloppy that they left her body lying there out in the open of the common it was a struck of panic and I guess it wasnt intentional when Emma talks of "the secret" as speculated it looks as it was more than a single person involved and she prob didnt contact the killer directly could be someone covering up
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Is Jane the killer? Some clues to consider:

1) Jane was supposedly away with Bobby on Good Friday, and yet she jumped right in with an alibi for Lauren recently, stating she saw her walk away from the Beale residence.

2) She failed to attend Lucy's funeral and hid the phone and purse instead of handing them over to the police, and away from where anyone would find them.

3) She also went away from the Square for a few months with Bobby, coming back when most of the damage had cleared up and thus making amends with Ian.

4) She also seemed pretty keen to shut down Emma every time Lucy was mentioned.

5) Let's not forget to mention that really weird way that she told Cindy someone had 'dropped presents off at the house' earlier.

6) Let's not forget one important clue - where was she on the night of Lucy's murder? No alibi. Was she at Masoods' place?

7) She didn't look particularly shocked at first being told of Lucy's death - if she'd known already, why would she be?
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actually i already messed up my theory she was seen on the bus heading to the common at 8pm

but was that prior to the car lot or after? when did she argue with billy
Edited by niteflyer, 5 Jan 2015, 14:54.
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5 Jan 2015, 14:52
Is Jane the killer? Some clues to consider:

1) Jane was supposedly away with Bobby on Good Friday, and yet she jumped right in with an alibi for Lauren recently, stating she saw her walk away from the Beale residence.

2) She failed to attend Lucy's funeral and hid the phone and purse instead of handing them over to the police, and away from where anyone would find them.

3) She also went away from the Square for a few months with Bobby, coming back when most of the damage had cleared up and thus making amends with Ian.

4) She also seemed pretty keen to shut down Emma every time Lucy was mentioned.

5) Let's not forget to mention that really weird way that she told Cindy someone had 'dropped presents off at the house' earlier.

6) Let's not forget one important clue - where was she on the night of Lucy's murder? No alibi. Was she at Masoods' place?

7) She didn't look particularly shocked at first being told of Lucy's death - if she'd known already, why would she be?
All interesting points and she's without a doubt one of the most likely. Her keeping the phone and wallet is confusing me though - if she did, surely she'd want to destroy the evidence rather than keeping it closeby (albeit quite well hidden).

I agree that these will probably be used to frame Nick, but surely Jane is planning that far ahead? I'm a bit confused tbh.
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5 Jan 2015, 14:47
MrJames
5 Jan 2015, 14:27
Emma's movements in her last two episodes alive are probably the most important material that we've had.
I've been wrecking my brain trying to figure out what the murderer will have done following his or her meeting with Emma in the park...

After all, they weren't to know Emma would die before the day was out, so they must have been frantic with worry over whether Emma would go to the police and whether they would be arrested anytime soon.

But it would seem the majority of our suspects were more than happy to be going for a New Year's drink in the Vic, instead of stuffing some clothes into a holdall and legging it. I wonder why that is...
Which is why i'm convinced she didn't meet the murderer, but somebody close to them. Has DTC confirmed the final 14 or 11 or whatever? If not, i'm not ruling out Lola or Billy - Ben and/or Jay would cover for either of them on Lolas say so.

Abi would also have quite a few of the 14 willing to try and protect her.
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