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| Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,803 Views) | |
| danny1987 | 25 Jan 2015, 01:08 Post #2561 |
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Oh definitely. It's worth a shot. |
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| WalfordE20 | 25 Jan 2015, 01:26 Post #2562 |
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For those who are entering the competition, what are your theories? |
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| Ross | 25 Jan 2015, 02:13 Post #2563 |
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I'm in the kitchen eating a biscuit
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Jane killed Lucy. In the time she was away from Albert Square, Jane grew more and more unhinged, and developed a hunger for revenge against Ian for the way he treated her for numerous years. When Peter called her, worried about Ian's mental wellbeing, in January 2014, she saw this as the perfect opportunity to wriggle her way back into the Beale household - but didn't have a clear plan in regards to what her revenge was going to be. Jane's ill mental health and hatred for Ian would explain her disgusting new characterisation since her return, and her prickliness when she first came back into the fold. Eventually, by the time April had come around, Jane started to feel more 'relaxed' in the Beale clan and started to wonder if maybe revenge against Ian was wrong. However the voices in Jane's head were conflicting, and - in a spur of the moment 'thing' - Jane found Lucy home alone at the Beales: in her bedroom, packing to leave Walford forever after an eventful day. Lucy paused her packing when she spotted her jewellery box and became nostalgic. She sat down at her dressing table and listened to the song of the jewellery box. Meanwhile, Jane's mental state reached an all-time low, and she took drastic action. She entered the room and reached for a blunt instrument nearby. Then she killed Lucy. She then proceeded to get Lucy's body out of the house (before Denise, and later Cindy, got back), and dump it on Walford Common later that evening. Following on from this, she then returned to Masood's quietly, and told Masood the next morning that she was in all night (she left the house after he had gone to bed). Jane being the killer could further be backed up by a number of other suspicious activities on her behalf: quickly leaving Walford after Lucy's death with Bobby (guilt); seeming reluctant to enter the church on the day of Lucy's funeral (even further guilt); hiding Lucy's phone and purse (cover-up); getting with Ian and the relationship moving at super-quick speed (the next part of her revenge, or even guilt again?). |
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| Leon | 25 Jan 2015, 02:25 Post #2564 |
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I've went from Abi to Peter to Emma to Denise to Abi again to Jane, I just have no clue at all and I think I should stop guessing.
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| Professor Plum | 25 Jan 2015, 03:41 Post #2565 |
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I really, really liked Mrs Peels orginal theory of it being Ronnie. Mostly because I cant stand the character and this would be a good way of getting rid of her. I do still believe that she is going to be more involved with Nicks death. In her last days before she went into a coma, she was back to smacking and evil Ronnie. Jane and Max know a lot about it, and are covering for someone. The only person I can think of is Abi. Its not Lauren. but even then, that doesnt sound right. Jane and Tanya were good friends, Jane would lie for Tanya, but I dont think she would cover something this big. Yes, she would lie for Lauren, cos she knows Lauren didnt do it, but apart from Bobby, I cant think of who else she would like for. This is where I have the problem pointing the finger. I just cant see who Max and Jane would risk going to prison for. Ben and Jay know a lot about it too, but I just dont think its them. I think they stumbled on the bag/phone either before or after. Probably before, which explains why she didnt txt to say she was in trouble or anything like that. the last thing she heard puts her in her house. That means a Beale, Nick (cos we know he goes into peoples houses) or a frienemy. I know Denise is acting out of character, but I put that down to the pressures of Patrick. |
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| Roly | 25 Jan 2015, 10:57 Post #2566 |
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How long is Jo joyner back for? several sources say different things. I know she is there for the live.. I wonder just how many characters are involved in the killer reveal because that means a group of actors are having to keep this a secret like how Todd Carty, Adam Woodyatt, Steve Mcfadden and Lucy Benjamin were the only actors who knew Lisa shot Phil. |
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| sherlockwanabe | 25 Jan 2015, 11:25 Post #2567 |
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I am thinking back to when Stacey killed Archie... I wasn't even trying to guess at the time and in watching it in the run up I was thinking "horrible git I hope it's ronnie or janine maybe" ie someone he has screwed over... When it turned out to be Stacey I thought "oh ok it was someone else who he screwed over" trying to apply same logic here now but must be with a twist... But still DTC will have his natural aspirations for what the outcome looks like and they will have atleast an element of the Archie killing... So... I keep going back to the question of who did she really screw over??? And my mind goes to Whitney - but add a layer: who would stick up for her? Lee or Terry or even Ryan! Prefer it to be Lee out of those though as he has double motive because Lucy had slept with Max whilst she was sleeping with him - as we have seen last week he gets quite vexed when someone violates trust!! Music box wise... Not sure how it fits unless the altercation took place in her room maybe Whitney broke in?? Jay and Ben would have probably committed their crime independently and were thrown into the mix to confuse us The family person she REALLY bloody annoyed would have been Cindy, there could be various avenues here but namely that Ian favoured Lucy and that Cindy was in dire need of attention as she is clearly mentally unhinged and almost unemotional about the loss of her sister but hey the actors don't know they killed her so her wooden performances can be forgiven... Or that could be the reason she is chosen to be the killer because she masked her emotion so well. Perhaps they had a fight because Lucy found out about Cindy stealing Phil's money? And if they fought in the room then that is why we heard the music box... And maybe Jane helped to move the body if she walked in on it... Peter is someone I thought it could be at the beginning but it seems so unrealistic in my mind Lola is another sly one who had been off the camera for a while... But I think her motives would be multi-faceted ie. Lucy was annoying, jealous of bond with twin, rude and looked down her nose at Lola, Peter was trying to "model" Lola on Lucy eg when she went for an interview... Most compelling reason: because Lucy screwed Billy over when she cut him out if the lettings business scenario and Lola is fiercely loyal and they are broke which is really hard when you have a kid and you have to steal electricity from a neighbour, and accidentally on purpose plant some false evidence in their flat... Could even be billy who killed her but story showing it more likely to be Lola at present unless they show us why billy was hiding those photos of Lucy!!! And Jay would totally hide the evidence to make it look like a mugging for Lola because he is in love with her for a year atleast! And Ben would too as he is Lexi's dad... There are also a fair amount of women scorned and their associates... Tanya/cora, Sadie (if it is mistaken identity), Emma I include Whitney again! What I have to keep reminding myself is: only one outcome will prevail and all of my other theories or even all of them if I am wrong (likely) evaporate as they are ultimately made up!!!! Or perhaps all of our theories are feasible because that is EXACTLY how they intended to write it?! Imagine EE was always this exciting?! I would have to quit my job to analyse this instead! Hahah |
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| Winters | 25 Jan 2015, 12:17 Post #2568 |
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I just noticed the way Lucy is displayed her arms are making the traditional "As above, so below" hand gesture. Her fingers pointing up and down. Like in Hermeticism or the Egyptian deities. Very mystical. Her posture is ridiculously choreographed for a corpse, though. No dead body would look like that. Edited by Winters, 25 Jan 2015, 12:31.
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| WalfordE20 | 25 Jan 2015, 12:38 Post #2569 |
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I'm going to get some serious withdrawal when this story is over. |
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| Shamelessness | 25 Jan 2015, 12:41 Post #2570 |
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I've been thinking it's Whitney for most of the storyline, but for the last week all I can think is Jane and Cindy. |
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| The Other Slater Cousin | 25 Jan 2015, 12:48 Post #2571 |
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I hope it isn't Whitney, simply because it would have zero effect. She has barely any links left on the Square. There'd be no big aftermath if it was her. Jane, Cindy or Abi. |
| "I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver | |
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| TellyAddict | 25 Jan 2015, 12:55 Post #2572 |
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I'm starting to get on the Jane/Cindy bandwagon too, but I think in the build-up we're going to be led to believe that Jane was the killer before they ultimately reveal it to be Cindy with Jane helping to cover it up. A small thing compared to all the other things being put forward, but I was thinking back to the April 22nd episode - they made a point of showing Jane breaking down on her own when she left the Beales to get Cindy and Bobby home, and Cindy's own reaction wasn't shown on-screen with the focus being on Denise standing in the kitchen with the door closed. Little things like that, along with the fact that both Jane and Cindy went on lengthy breaks immediately after the funeral, Laurie Brett and Mimi Keene being the only two suspects not present at the NTAs - there are probably loads of other examples that have been dripped into the story too. It definitely fits the upsetting angle of the story as well. |
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| The Other Slater Cousin | 25 Jan 2015, 13:50 Post #2573 |
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See my two theories were Abi, with Max covering for her or Cindy, with Jane covering it up. Basically the same set up, just with two different families. Jane and Cindy would be really upsetting. We actually know very little about Cindys whereabouts on Good Friday. Beyond excited for February now. Edited by The Other Slater Cousin, 25 Jan 2015, 13:51.
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| "I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver | |
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| Mormon Girl | 25 Jan 2015, 16:12 Post #2574 |
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It is worth a shot imagine if some of us Forum members from here win then we could meet each other. Wouldn't it be good if for the tour if the have 30 cast members past/present signing autographs for the 30 fans and having pictures took with the 30 fans Edited by Mormon Girl, 25 Jan 2015, 16:17.
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| Mormon Girl | 25 Jan 2015, 16:21 Post #2575 |
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I can't make my mind up between Jane, Cindy Jnr, Abi, Max and Denise. |
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| Roly | 25 Jan 2015, 16:46 Post #2576 |
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If its Jane is there anyway back for her? It would pretty much finish her and Ian off for good. I'm still wondering how they are going to get round the actor playing Lee having longer hair now than he did last Good Friday when it comes to the flashback. |
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| See You Slater | 25 Jan 2015, 16:49 Post #2577 |
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Scenes for the flashback episode may have been shot months ago, so maybe Lee's scenes were shot back then. If not, maybe he'll wear a hat. |
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| WalfordE20 | 25 Jan 2015, 17:40 Post #2578 |
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Or a hoodie, a bit like when he posted the video for Emma. |
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| Blondie08 | 25 Jan 2015, 18:00 Post #2579 |
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I can't pin it down at all, would Denise have heard this going on if Lucy was killed in the house?! Or does it mean she had a role to play?! Or slept through it all.. I can buy the Cindy with Jane helping but I have a weird feeling that there's a few people involved in this as we are starting to see in Broad Church! After all Adam/ Ian did say that's how DTC explained the plot to him... Like Broadchurch only better! Like you all me and my best mate are hooked, searching for every bit of evidence we can but nothing is clear at all which I guess is DTC's intention. I'm pretty sure though that the jewellry / music box wasn't put back in Lucy's bedroom or nothing was shown to say it was so it could have still been in the kitchen that night where Ian left it. was she killed in the kitchen? Rather than upstairs could mean Denise could have slept through it I suppose?! See, totally obsessed
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| Katie | 25 Jan 2015, 20:03 Post #2580 |
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Denise became really important for me once we knew Lucy died near the jewellery box. She definitely came home before Lucy died, and there's not much time left for it to be revealed that she went out again for a reason completely unrelated to Lucy's death. If she was in the house when Lucy died and wasn't involved, I think it rules out Lucy and the murderer having an argument which she probably would have heard. I don't think anyone went into the house planning to kill her, and if there wasn't an argument which led to someone deliberately hitting her but not meaning to kill her, I can't work out what would have led to her being hit over the head. I suppose the jewellery box could have been taken out of the house, but then someone would have to bring it back again. The hole in the floor is interesting as it could have been hidden there until someone had the chance to clean the blood of it. I'm just looking at the timeline on the BBC website, which says 19.57- Lucy and Ian's argument, and then 19.59- Lucy walks to Bridge Street and leaves Albert Square. I'm not sure how those times work as we saw Lucy after the argument in a scene which lasted longer than two minutes, and then there was a later scene of Lucy standing outside for a while before leaving. |
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