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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,801 Views)
sherlockwanabe
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Good spot Katie!! You should be a detective!! Brings Denise back into the game for me big time!!! She was completely off my list
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Slater11
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I still think it's Jane. Then she went to Scotland because she stole the identity of a Teacher over there called Christine Mulgrew, so she's lying to Ian about what occupation she is doing:p.
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sherlockwanabe
26 Jan 2015, 01:02
Good spot Katie!! You should be a detective!! Brings Denise back into the game for me big time!!! She was completely off my list
Perhaps Denise got back later than 845 and it was more like 9:30pm?! Lucy still recorded after this though I think down to Emma's notes but if she was where she said she was she was in the house so was the music box moved out of the house, did Denise kill her, or know who did or slept through it!

More options all the time lol :)

Really good spot Katie
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Blondie08
26 Jan 2015, 00:57
I hope the writers are on the case with stuff like this, we all know so much detail now if they slip up it will be awful :(
I know, I don't want to be questioning everything after the reveal!

We saw Denise arrive home before Lucy got on the bus at 20.06.
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Fehnder
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I still think Jane.

Perhaps Cindy thinks she did it and Jane is covering for her. Or Jane is covering for Ian. But Jane definitely.

The only reason why I'm leaning away from Ian is that I'm positive June is on her way out soon. I can't see her going and Ian being a murderer.

As for the jewelery box, we know Lucy came back to the square. We know she must have had some kind of altercation with Cindy (Cindy voicemail)

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Mr Carter
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I like the fact that it could, potentially, be any one of the suspects right now and everyone are grasping at any straw available to deduct the culprit. I really hope whoever did this makes sense from the beginning to the end and are very much the focal point in the aftermath. Also, please NOT, I repeat, NOT Abi. I want a dramatic aftermath, not some crappy Panto at a school.
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JimRRR
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Not that I care.....way to long for this plot to be resolved......Nonetheless, I think it's Jake Stone
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WalfordE20
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In the park, Abi was sitting in the exact same spot the killer sat in when meeting Emma.
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Abi is the biggest red herring. If it turns out to be her it will be a joke.
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The Other Slater Cousin
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I still think Jane not wearing her cracker hat on Christmas is significant.
"I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver
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Blondie08
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Has anyone seen the new trailer...freaky on digital spy! Haven't analysed for clues as of yet but here it is....

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a624513/watch-the-chilling-new-trailer-for-eastenders-30th-anniversary-week.html#~p2vXBNZ7jRmPsL

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MrJames
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26 Jan 2015, 22:20
I still think Jane not wearing her cracker hat on Christmas is significant.
Cackling. What have we become? I am mindful of all the little Jane/Cindy moments we've had over the last few months.

It's all coming full circle now, it's a really odd feeling:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m86d
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sherlockwanabe
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Another strange thought... Maybe because I only just saw the episode and trailer after just now and it's late but: I didn't see nancy or shirley tanya jake danny sharon billy or Lola or phil or any cottons or masoods or spraggans... And it says the killer will be revealed or something so I'm thinking where are they and will one of them end up being the killer because they are yet to be revealed?! Need to watch trailer again but too creepy for this time of night as I get a bit scared!! And I couldn't tell who all of them were...
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MrJames
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Love the banner at the top of the website.

Police. Lucy. Cross.

A line up of Max's sexual encounters.
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MrJames
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Let's just think about Lee in regards to the trailer for a minute.

The swinging swing:
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The handprints on the chip shop window... Lee saw Lucy and Billy arguing in the chip shop from outside.

The bell ringing at the Vic... Lee works at the Vic.

The lids coming off the bottles... maybe Lee was drunk at the time? Or he 'flipped his lid'... He had one of his anger outbursts.

Lee was the first one to walk towards the gate swinging...

Interesting. Very interesting. There's also the possibilty that the trailer retraced Lucy's last steps, and the place where all the residents gathered was where Fatboy, Lola and JAY filmed that video.
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sherlockwanabe
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Thanks MrJames that is brill I will watch it again :)
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WalfordE20
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Oh I do hope it's not Lee. To have a long-lasting impact the killer has to be someone close to the Beales- and has to be played by a strong actor. This forum would explode in uproar due to his surname. Interesting points though, Lee was my first thought when I saw the swing.
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Forest11
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I wonder if everybody directly ruled out on New Years day as being the person who contacted Emma is somehow involved in the mystery. Masood may have witnessed Jane leaving the house while Billy ,Lola and Alexs involved n covering up and the planting of the Blood in the flat.
Jane's car is in the trailer so either they playing with us knowing we have noticed that or that the car is the big clue.
I wonder if the she died in the Beales house as her ghost was above it.
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DRAPPLEdreamers1992
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What a lot to take in. Totally agree with the above comments. They are Def playing with “time” in both of the Lucy trailers. Last trailer they gave clues to what the suspects did after she died. So this time it’s either retracing Lucy’s footsteps or the killers. Should we be linking the two trailers clues then..?

The most telling part (for me) was the handprints emerging on the chip shop window... So I’ll just dispute this clue. As it was mentioned before, this relates to the argument Lucy had with billy that fateful night over Billy stealing fish. Which Lee Carter witnessed – At first we suspect Billy’s involvement, though going back to the good Friday episode Lucy was there with Lee when she walked down that street and it was while she was blowing him off. So did Lee retrace their steps during the party hoping to find Lucy?
They’ve built Lee’s character up to be really observant of late - which he never used to be. The conversation last night with Stan about his death sounds as to us as though it’s about Stan’s character arc but could really be about how haunted Lee is by his dealings in the army. Then Lee’s suspicion about Lauren and sending the video to Emma; putting Lauren in the frame. There was also Lee pointing the finger at Billy’s dealing with Lucy on the night. Lee keeps shifting and shifting and shifting the blame. Ironically he shows more interest in what was going on, more so than Lucy’s own father who gave up trying to solve the mystery a day after Jake was arrested. Just having one of the Carters involved is so confusing as I don’t know whether this is a good thing or a bad thing... are the writers now merely making Lee a good intrinsic person, completely rid of the red cloud of violence in his eyes? I really like the cultural currency of EastEnders having a character from the army in it - but his wise owl behaviour seems forced and has happened without warning. Traditionally on EastEnders’s a character needs to go through an event in order to exhibit depth or change. For example Tina has matured vastly due to what she learned from being with Tosh.

However when it concerns the argument over stealing fish… the main candidates were Billy and Lola, both of whom appear to be out of the murder equation. So why film the Beal dynamic here? The chip shop hasn’t been mentioned much lately, by anyone. Why mention it in the trailer? Surely Ian’s restaurant would have been more ideal. Also Jane in the trailer has regressed to being suited in a chippy outfit and hat - when in the present moment Jane is being set up with the portrayal of becoming more of a laid back, relaxed and glamourous character. She seems to have reverted to the time where Ian pushed her around taking advantage of being an accessory to his business.

If I were to taken a wild guess on the trailer’s location, it is maybe because the chip shop overlooks the square more? Logically the chippy is therefore in view of the killers route when they went on their way to murder (accidently kill) her? The argument Lucy had with Billy was when she returned from the flats. So it must have happened after the video of Fat-boy and Jay etc. Meaning that anyone in that video could have done it.
I’m not a believer that Lauren did it but it doesn’t seem logical that she was stalking the square looking for her best mate that night - yet she didn’t see Lucy even when she returned and argued with Billy? I wonder did Lauren even really go straight back home after, neither Max or Abi confirmed this & she hasn’t shown any concern over their whereabouts - or even commented on where Max or Abi were that night. She simply believes them?
This is strange because we know for a fact Max wasn’t there all night for (at least five mins) and it is heavily suspected that he was involved. Too much evidence points to this. Max knows either the person who did it or who the person who moved Lucy … I’m sure during those “five mins” he was the one that tampered with lost footage in the park. He’s done it before. Who else would have realised how to do that? Dom Tread-well said Lucy’s fall in the car lot was a red herring but it was also a clue.

Last moving onto Peter. For children in need, Peter’s calendar photo of him holding pickles which romanticized his crappy job. I know it was for a good cause and all but that photo has flashed on the soaps screen more often than any other of the photos. Why? Because looking back - Peter really resented working in the chip shop and it was him that looked after the business during Ian’s breakdown and while Lucy took care of the café. Also remember back when Lola used to work there before she became a mother, and I think Cindy also worked there for little while.
Will keep investigating! Sorry for long comment lol. :huh:

Edited by DRAPPLEdreamers1992, 27 Jan 2015, 14:52.
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Mr Carter
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Personally I wouldn't mind of it was Lee, if the story makes sense and they can justify it, I don't really give a damn if he's a Carter or not. We have known he was a suspect for months now so it wouldn't be too shocking.
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