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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,790 Views)
Katie
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I'm going to overthink that quote now...

I ruled out Ben and Jay as they obviously know something, but I'm still convinced it wasn't them. The quote suggests to me that there weren't a lot of people involved, so if only one person is involved then it would rule out anyone who wouldn't be able to carry Lucy's body or have access to a car. Whitney and possibly Abi are the people who didn't like Lucy, but then I can't imagine either of them getting Lucy's body to the common without help.

If we think about who didn't have an alibi, they've mentioned Ian's even though he might not have been Rainie all night. Max and Abi were together, Denise was at home, Lauren, Whitney and Lee were mainly at the party. Not much has been said about Cindy and Jane, apart from Jane seeing Lauren through the window which would have taken a few seconds. Jane is still sounding like the obvious one.
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ian
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When considering who the killer is, I don't think the motive really matters, because ultimately they'll have picked a murderer while thinking about the emotional impact and dramatic consequences, and then thought about the motive later, as evidenced by the fact that they changed the killer in planning stage. I think that's why they're telling us not to over-think it; apart from a few obvious exceptions it really could be anyone and we might as well pull a name out of a hat.

I'm betting on Jane, mostly cos I want to see that smug bitch sent down.
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Katie
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According to this interview, the murderer will find out they did it "an hour or half an hour" before the reveal.

I hope this isn't true and someone has been told already. They might not need to know in advance for the reveal, but they will have to rehearse the flashback and the live episode.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-lucy-beales-killer-given-5099970?ICID=FB_mirror_main
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Fehnder
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I saw this. I don't believe it. Surely it wad the biggest downfall of the 25th. I think it's just to stop leaks or endless do you know who did it questions in interviews. It's much easier to just say you haven't been told and don't know!
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Fehnder
3 Feb 2015, 23:08
I saw this. I don't believe it. Surely it wad the biggest downfall of the 25th. I think it's just to stop leaks or endless do you know who did it questions in interviews. It's much easier to just say you haven't been told and don't know!
John Partridge said that the cast all know who did it in a recent tweet, I think?
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Dave70
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Didn't DTC say that the "killer" was going to be told in January?
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MrJames
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To be fair though, if Peter's not the killer then Ben Hardy's not going to know whether or not the killer has been told as it will still be all top-secret. Equally if Peter is the killer, then this could just be Ben's decoy.

They've certainly not publicized the 'hour before' thing any where else, where as they have publicized that the killer will be told in January - so I'm more inclined to go with that.
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Am I the only one really hoping Lauren is pregnant with Peter's baby? Beale legacy. And it won't matter that it's yet another pregnancy because Jacqueline Jossa will be off screen anyway.
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*unpopular opinion* but I think Peter and Lauren have a little bit of future power couple about them. On that basis, I can't think of anyone better than Lauren to provide that next Beale generation. (Not that that's Lauren sole purpose of course - don't come at me).
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Fehnder
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Interestingly we don't know much about Lauren leaving story.

Is it leaving with Tanya? Why do her and Peter call off the wedding yet again? It's interesting for sure, it shows peter must have done or been involved in something, or he leaves her?
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MrJames
3 Feb 2015, 23:46
*unpopular opinion* but I think Peter and Lauren have a little bit of future power couple about them. On that basis, I can't think of anyone better than Lauren to provide that next Beale generation. (Not that that's Lauren sole purpose of course - don't come at me).
I like the idea of Peter getting his rightful place in the Square (even though it probably wont be Ben Hardy, but thats OK), and I am quite OK with Lauren just being the vessel to provide that link.

so you have nothing to fear from me ^_^
Just livin' in perfect New Zealand!
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Katie
3 Feb 2015, 23:06
According to this interview, the murderer will find out they did it "an hour or half an hour" before the reveal.

I hope this isn't true and someone has been told already. They might not need to know in advance for the reveal, but they will have to rehearse the flashback and the live episode.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-lucy-beales-killer-given-5099970?ICID=FB_mirror_main
I cant see how this can be true.

Surely they should be filming past the live week by now, or at least rehearsing it and it that case, shouldnt someone know that they are filming scenes wearing a yellow sash?


has Jake Woods contract been renewed yet?
Edited by Professor Plum, 4 Feb 2015, 00:17.
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Leon
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We need some way of recording everybody's votes before the reveal so that we can see who was right and allow them to gloat. :D
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Fehnder
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Perhaps we should do a final decision thread. No editing and one post only. Stating the murderer only, no theories.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jay-brown-kill-lucy-odds-5100607

I don't know if someone has posted this already but Bookies ' odds have been slashed to make Jay the second favourite .

I can't believe more people haven't voted for Whitney in that poll , she has the been pulled out of the spotlight and I think people don't consider her because of that reason.
Edited by Shaz1022, 4 Feb 2015, 02:36.
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Mrs Peel
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Here is my absolutely final and official guess. I'm not changing my mind anymore.

It's Peter.

I know I said that it would be too obvious because we knew Ben Hardy was leaving, but it dawned on me last night in the cheesy pub scene with smirkingly smug Ian, Jane the Queen, Peter and Lauren, when Lauren proposed to Peter and toasted him.

Using a Danny Dyer analogy, toast is "brown bread," (Cockney slang for "dead"). In current slang as well, "toast" means "dead." Also, the law of soap averages tells you that Lauren and Peter are doomed as a couple.

Another thing that's a given - Lauren always discovers things she shouldn't know - Max and Stacey's affair, the fact that Stacey killed Archie, and now, when she finds a piece of paper on her filthy kitchen floor, it's the missing piece of the puzzle. Lauren discovers the killer's identity.

Of all the suspects - and I'm totally discounting the Cokers as a joke inclusion - the only one whom Ian could possibly forgive and tolerate an eventual return to the Square would be Peter.

I think Peter killed Lucy accidentally. I think he panicked, didn't know what to do and ran to Jane. I think Jane helped him move the body and possibly Max helped her. Lucy was slight, but she was tall, and an unconscious or dead person becomes a dead weight, so maybe Jane needed Max, who happened to be "walking the dog", to help her get Lucy into her car. Maybe Abi saw him do that, hence the oblique reference about what happened that night. And maybe Ben was involved in this as well, taking her purse and phone to make it look like a robbery.

I think what will happen is that Ian will, weepingly, forgive Peter and blame himself, but at the same time either Ian will exile Peter from Walford, or Peter will exile himself for a long time. Sometime within the next five or seven years, an older Peter with a new head will return from New Zealand or from Florida.

So that's my final guess. Peter killed Lucy.
Edited by Mrs Peel, 4 Feb 2015, 12:51.
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Mrs Peel
4 Feb 2015, 11:42
Here is my absolutely final and official guess. I'm not changing my mind anymore.

It's Peter.

I know I said that it would be too obvious because we knew Ben Hardy was leaving, but it dawned on me last night in the cheesy pub scene with smirkingly smug Ian, Jane the Queen, Peter and Lauren, when Lauren proposed to Peter and toasted him.

Using a Danny Dyer analogy, toast is "brown bread," (Cockney slang for "dead"). In current slang as well, "toast" means "dead." Also, the law of soap averages tells you that Lauren and Peter are doomed as a couple.

Another thing that's a given - Lauren always discovers things she shouldn't know - Max and Stacey's affair, the fact that Stacey killed Archie, and now, when she finds a piece of paper on her filthy kitchen floor, it's the missing piece of the puzzle. Lauren discovers the killer's identity.

Of all the suspects - and I'm totally discounting the Cokers as a joke inclusion - the only one whom Ian could possibly forgive and tolerate an eventual return to the Square would be Peter.
I agree. The current development with Lauren seems to point in his direction and I still feel that Peter having accidentally killed his twin sister would be the most emotionally realistic and tragic scenario (that allows for a return of the character in the long run)
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MrJames
3 Feb 2015, 23:46
*unpopular opinion* but I think Peter and Lauren have a little bit of future power couple about them. On that basis, I can't think of anyone better than Lauren to provide that next Beale generation. (Not that that's Lauren sole purpose of course - don't come at me).
It's a safe guess to say that when *Peter* returns (whenever), he'll have a different head. I may utter an unpopular opinion, but I think this couple, as is, has no chemistry whatsoever. In her previous on-screen romances, Lauren hasn't generated any sort of chemistry - certainly not with Joey or Jake. Maybe it's the actress, but she works best and is most likeable when she's not involved in a romantic situation.

The reason this Peter and this Lauren have come close to working is because the characters are two of the most self-absorbed and selfish young people on the show.

I don't see them as a power couple anymore than Lucy and Joey were originally touted to be or anymore than the disastrous pairing of Whitney and Tyler.

Actually, Peter and Lola worked until DTC turned Peter into an abysmal, navel-and-mirror-gazing snob.
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Fehnder
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My guess has to be peter. Final guess.
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I think EastEnders has ruined Adele's 'Someone Like You' for me. All day I've been singing "we were born and raised Emma Summerhayes" to myself.
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