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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,783 Views)
Bec
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I'm starting to be swayed by these Peter theories and it would certainly make sense. I just don't see why they announced his departure if he is the killer, it really puts a dampener on the aftermath of the story.
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Katie
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Did they actually announce it? I don't think it was ever on the website and a lot of viewers might not know. I'm assuming he chose to leave without knowing who the murderer was, and it wouldn't make much difference to the storylines. They might have planned for him to stay, but if Ian found out Peter killed Lucy it would be easy to explain why he left and it would be one less murderer walking around Walford. People are doubting he's the murderer because they know he's leaving, so it could work to their advantage. If they'd kept it secret but we found out now, everyone would be suspicious.

I did start to wonder if it wasn't him after finding out he was leaving, but now I don't think it makes any difference.
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Bec
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That's a point. There was no official announcement on the website, it was only confirmed to Digital Spy by an Eastenders spokesperson.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a611115/eastenders-ben-hardy-to-leave-peter-beale-role.html
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Winters
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I personally hope it's Peter. I know Ben Hardy will nail those scenes. He only seems to be really into it when he can do real emotional drama.
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NevermindMe
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The official site did confirm Peter's departure.

Lucy's killer has been leaked!

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leobeast
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I don't think they wanted to announce Ben Hardy's departure, weren't they forced into it when it was leaked that he was being considered for the X-Men movie?
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leobeast
8 Feb 2015, 22:48
I don't think they wanted to announce Ben Hardy's departure, weren't they forced into it when it was leaked that he was being considered for the X-Men movie?
Yep. The X-Men shortlist was revealed and as Ben was on it there were rumours about what it'd mean for his EastEnders future so they confirmed he'd be leaving.
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See You Slater
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(oh, and the fact Peter was trying to find the killer means nothing. Stacey spent months asking Bradley if he killed Archie.)
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Dan
8 Feb 2015, 18:43
I still think it was Jane but Peter has certainly shot up the suspects list and I've only watched sporadically in the last couple of weeks.

Neither Ian or Peter would deliberately kill Lucy in cold blood but could they commit an awful action in the heat of the moment and repress what had happened? Certainly.

I suspect that if Ian or Peter killed Lucy, then Emma met Jane at the park who was pleading their case. Jane is self-righteous and arrogant enough to think that she could completely control this situation, even a situation as serious as a young woman losing her life.

If Jane killed Lucy, I think Emma met Ben, who would help Jane in order to keep the truth from destroying Ian.

I agree that Emma met Jane. The picking of the styrofoam cup is something Jane the Queen would and could easily do when she's nervous.

Walking away arrogantly and determinedly from Emma could go in character wth Jane the Queen as well.

I'm calling this: Peter is revealed as the killer. There's a long, confessional, heart-rending scene with Ian, where Ian forgives him, blames himself and either Ian says Peter has to leave the Square for awhile or Peter self-imposes an exile (expect a new Peter in the next five years or so). Peter will leave, and when Nick eventually dies, he will be framed for the murder. Nick isn't going back on drugs for no reason.

The big question is: How Ian will react to Jane's cover-up? Because I'm certain that she covered for Peter and moved the body. Ian should shun the bitch and annul the marriage. I'm sure her biggest fan, Masood, would take her in.

I also agree that Lucy ran into Ben who forced her to give him her purse and phone to keep her quiet.
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Bec
8 Feb 2015, 18:52
I just don't see why they announced his departure if he is the killer, it really puts a dampener on the aftermath of the story.
Because it got us off the scent. We all, me included, thought that Peter could never be the killer because it was announced he was leaving. A real Christie sort of thing to do.
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King Billy
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This thread has convinced me.

Peter Beale. 14/1.
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Leon
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Maybe they revealed Ben was leaving so that we thought that they thought that we thought he wouldn't be the killer if his departure was revealed, so we think that they're bluffing us and Peter is the killer, when actually they're double bluffing us and he really isn't the killer.

Mindfuck.
Edited by Leon, 9 Feb 2015, 02:12.
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MrJames
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If the killer gets the duff duff... http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053j7ws
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MrJames
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Pam and Les *NOT* in the flashback episode.

Richard Blackwood *IS* in the flashback episode.

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Mrs Peel
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I would guess that Richard Blackwood might be a dealer?

DTC did something very clever. When it was leaked that Ben Hardy was in line for a role in the X-Men film, he allowed it to be announced that he was leaving, although it wasn't hard to suss, since Martin Fowler was being re-introduced and it wasn't hard to fathom that Martin would be back on the fruit'n veg stall, which would mean that Peter would, maybe, be off.

Wit the announcement that Hardy was leaving, it lulled many into thinking his departure would preclude him from being the killer because it would be too obvious, but that was a brilliant Christie move - because in Agatha Christie novels, sometimes the killer is so obvious, we ignore him.
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Mrs Peel
9 Feb 2015, 11:28
I would guess that Richard Blackwood might be a dealer?

DTC did something very clever. When it was leaked that Ben Hardy was in line for a role in the X-Men film, he allowed it to be announced that he was leaving, although it wasn't hard to suss, since Martin Fowler was being re-introduced and it wasn't hard to fathom that Martin would be back on the fruit'n veg stall, which would mean that Peter would, maybe, be off.

Wit the announcement that Hardy was leaving, it lulled many into thinking his departure would preclude him from being the killer because it would be too obvious, but that was a brilliant Christie move - because in Agatha Christie novels, sometimes the killer is so obvious, we ignore him.
The same is also true in Broadchurch, another of DTC's inspirations. Before I watched it I knew that the killer was a man and somebody who didn't feature much but even I was shocked when the killer was revealed. He was just completely overlooked and never given a second thought by me.
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NevermindMe
8 Feb 2015, 22:24
The official site did confirm Peter's departure.

Lucy's killer has been leaked!

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Yep they did back in November
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastenders/entries/7bc94586-02a4-3d20-ba79-7b92b1e70691

I don't think Peter moved the body is he is the killer as his reaction makes no sense. I think if he killed her he didn't mean too. How he didn't want his dad to actually say it....like he knew something was bad and the look of his dad proved he killed her something he didn't mean too.
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Good to see Keble will be back.
Nick dies before then so I cant see how he will be credited.
Blackwood in the flashback interesting. Bobby to despite the previous one being around at that time. Pam and Les not so they seem to be ruled out through of course they could be red Herrings in the credits.
Tanya is not in the fully live despite it being said she will be in live scenes so these must be in one of inserts. Neither is Ronnie which I am surprised about. Only Kebble credited for the police which is a surprise as usually there is others. I would be surprised if there is not twist return for someone unannounced through. Blackwood not in full live either

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Jade
9 Feb 2015, 11:42
Thanks for that Jade. It wasn't on the latest news page and the archive only goes up to October which is why I missed it.
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Winters
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Framing someone else for the sake of his son sounds like something Ian would do. Especially when he's lost his twin. Oh well, he'll be dead anyway.
Edited by Winters, 9 Feb 2015, 16:46.
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