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| Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories | |
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| Ross | 11 Feb 2015, 08:38 Post #3041 |
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| Mrs Peel | 11 Feb 2015, 12:40 Post #3042 |
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The spoilers do indicate that Lucy's purse and phone are stolen before she's killed, so she may have come into contact with Ben. |
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| TimWil | 11 Feb 2015, 16:01 Post #3043 |
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Last night's pregnancy revelation cemented my belief that Max did it. I can see Lauren leaving Walford with Tanya without telling Peter that she was carrying the grandchild of Lucy's murderer. There's a reason Stacey Slater Ice Skater Secret Keeper ia being drawn into this. I'm pretty sure she'll end up taking over Max's businesses and will have to do battle with Phil over them.
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| Mormon Girl | 11 Feb 2015, 16:06 Post #3044 |
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It can't be Max it has to be a Beale. |
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| Dan | 11 Feb 2015, 16:46 Post #3045 |
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It's highly unlikely to be Max. I think it's definitely a Beale. Lauren is very uneasy when she is around the Beale family in general. I would rule Cindy out simply to the lack of impact it would have. Bobby would be utterly ridiculous. It's either Jane, Peter or Ian and Jane is involved no matter who it is. Even if she didn't kill Lucy herself, I believe Jane moved the body and helped cover it up. Let's face it, Jane is arrogant, controlling and self-righteous enough to believe that she could control and keep a lid on any situation involving the Beale family, even one as serious and tragic as this. Jane suddenly and very quickly reintegrated herself into the family and attempted to elbow Denise out when Lucy died which we, at the time, put down to her being a bitch but there could be the added issue of trying to protect this secret from the family and thinking Denise would complicate things. She has also made sure that she has been around to guide the conversation whenever the police have updated the family. She left pretty quickly after having sex with Ian on the lounge floor but Peter was living with Lola at the time. Jane moved back and has been hanging around since Peter moved back in. It's like she doesn't want Ian and Peter to be living together without her supervision which could be suggestive that one of them killed Lucy, does not remember having done so and Jane is using her influence to make sure one stays ignorant of their crime and the other never finds out due to the trauma. Or, Jane did it herself and is trying to prevent Peter and Ian from working it out by guiding what they hear about Lucy. Ben was involved in criminal activity that night but was peripheral to Lucy's actual demise. He is shady because as a convicted killer, he would be in a world of trouble had the police connected his movements to Lucy's that night. I do believe he stole Lucy's things. I wonder if what Lucy was writing in that shot will come back to haunt someone. I also don't know if she was killed in the Beale house or not because if she was, Denise would have had to have slept through it. |
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| Mr Branning | 11 Feb 2015, 16:53 Post #3046 |
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I think that'd be a great twist if Lucy was killed in the house whilst Denise slept upstairs oblivious - Denise's guilt would be huge. That's why I'm not going to be outraged if the killer turns out to be Abi or Cindy - I think enough other characters are going to be involved in some way that there'll still be a fantastic aftermath. Max definitely knows something and I'm confident that, if Jane didn't kill her, she at least moved the body. Those two characters in their own right would create huge waves before we even get started on the actual killer. |
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| The Other Slater Cousin | 11 Feb 2015, 16:56 Post #3047 |
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My two main suspects since the story began are Abi and Cindy. Currently, I seriously think it is Cindy, with Jane covering up for it. I think the effect of this story is to really shock the Beales, not the audience. Cindy disappeared for months after Lucy's death, and even since her return to the Square, she has been quiet. Only involved with the scenes with the whole family, never anything more personal. We know nothing about her whereabouts on the night of Lucy's death. There must also be a point to baby Beth. The potential is quite huge, especially if someone is covering for her. There will definitely be a twist. Someone covering for the killer or the killer not being the person who moved the body etc. It's awfully exciting. |
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| The Other Slater Cousin | 11 Feb 2015, 16:58 Post #3048 |
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Completely agree. The killer being Abi or Cindy wouldn't be tarring a really important character like Peter, but would still cause major repercussions for the characters around them. I mean Cindy is Lucy's sister. A young woman being killed by her sister is pretty heartbreaking, for both of them. |
| "I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver | |
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| The Other Slater Cousin | 11 Feb 2015, 17:04 Post #3049 |
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Personally, I don't think this will happen, but the thought of Phil vs Stacey is delicious. |
| "I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver | |
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| Mrs Peel | 11 Feb 2015, 17:54 Post #3050 |
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The killer is, most definitely, a Beale. As someone said - either Ian, Jane or Peter. As someone else reiterated, Lauren is very edgy and uneasy around the Beales. Prior to her finding the missing piece of Emma's puzzle, I feel that the reason she proposed to Peter had a lot to do with the fact that she was pregnant by him. (The baby is Peter's, not Dean's as has been speculated.) My guess is that whoever killed Lucy will be a Beale, and the ultimate blame will be put on the dead Nick Cotton. The reason for this is that the Beale culprit will be too important to leave the show indefinitely, but would have to leave for an unspecified time with the ability to return freely. There is only one person who could have killed Lucy whom Ian could ever find it in himself to forgive - Peter, but even so, upon discovery either Ian would exile Peter away from Walford, or Peter would exile himself. I think Peter killed Lucy by accident in a quarrel. I think he ran to find Jane, and Jane moved the body. I'll go one further and say she was killed in the same spot where Ian and Jane bonked, which was why Jane felt so terrible. Jane is covering for Peter. It also explains why not only Peter, but also Ian, was content that Jake Stone, a loner, be identified as Lucy's killer. Ian was afraid her killer would be someone close to the family or within the family, itself. Sometimes a parent just knows these things. With an alcoholic stranger locked up, Peter would be in the clear. This is why Lauren is leaving, and she won't tell about the secret child. I daresay we won't see Peter again until he's a fair bit older and sporting a new head. I don't know how Ian will react to Queen Jane's attempt to cover up the proceedings, but I have a feeling that Nick being back on heroin and dying isn't at all coincidental. They'll need an ultimate scapegoat, and who better than a dead man who was a known bad'un? |
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| luisgarcia | 11 Feb 2015, 18:03 Post #3051 |
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Still can't decide between Ian and Peter. Aargh. |
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| DRAPPLEdreamers1992 | 11 Feb 2015, 18:32 Post #3052 |
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In the new photos where Lucy is robbed she's squatting outside the Argy Bargey. This must have happened not long after she had that fight with billy as I think the Chippy is next to the Argy Bargey? However in the flashback pics Billy actually man handles Lucy (no doubt after Lucy fires him) so maybe her bag falls off during this - she turns her back on the bag to continue arguing with Billy and someone takes the bags contents while she's not looking. This could've easily been either Ben or Jay. If Lucy was insulting either Billy or Lola in the argument I could see Jay Ben (or Lola) doing so out of spite. Jay just because he cares for Billy and Lola or Ben, because Billy is jobless and he can't support the mother of his child. While I believe Ben is the main person involved because Jay claimed he had screwed his real brother Ian over with whatever he did - Jay must have also had some involvement because Ben retorted "I just lied for you. You ought to be more grateful." in their one to one. which one did it... Colour me stumped. |
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| danny1987 | 11 Feb 2015, 18:42 Post #3053 |
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The half hour between the episode and flashback on Thursday on here will be INSANE with last minute 'how events unfolded' theories (unless we all break the server!) |
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| Ross | 11 Feb 2015, 19:01 Post #3054 |
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Dean being Lauren's baby daddy hasn't been "speculated". The post stating it earlier on was very clearly a joke.
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| Ross | 11 Feb 2015, 19:03 Post #3055 |
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That's because you're barking up the wrong Beale-shaped tree
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| Bec | 11 Feb 2015, 19:13 Post #3056 |
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Oh they're certainly trying very hard to make us think it's a Beale but no, I'm not buying it. Jane, Peter and even Ian have now become too obvious in my opinion and so the shock factor wouldn't be big enough. I also don't think the writers would taint any of the three characters with a murder. There is still an outside chance it could be Cindy though, she's been far too quiet since she got back and is clearly there for a reason. So it could be possible. I can't get Whitney off my mind. Mark me, she's the one. |
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| Shamelessness | 11 Feb 2015, 19:45 Post #3057 |
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I really, really don't want it to be Ian or Peter. I don't want anything to detract from their brilliant scenes in the immediate aftermath of Lucy's death. I want their grief to be genuine and to see them united as a family instead of torn apart again. If it's Jane I'll be disappointed, I want Ian to have some happiness and I struggle to see a valid motive. If it's Cindy I'll be underwhelmed; she isn't a big enough character to justify being the killer. Les and/or Pam would be a joke. If it's Lee there will just be an uproar about The Carter Show. Lorna Fitzgerald isn't a strong enough actress for it to be Abi. Ben and Jay are involved somehow but neither killed her (would be too similar to the Heather storyline). Personally I don't want Max to become a killer, he's already sleazy enough, and I want Jake to stick around. Diane Parish would be absolutely amazing but I think Denise has had enough misery recently. I'm convinced it's Whitney. She has the motive, no alibi and there has to be a reason she barely appeared in the second half of 2014. No doubt Patsy Palmer's exit royally messed up the plans to bring the Butchers into the anniversary via Whitney, but I think Shona can carry it off and I wouldn't mind if Whitney left (because the killer will almost definitely leave this year). Whitney just works for me. Edited by Shamelessness, 11 Feb 2015, 19:47.
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| Katie | 11 Feb 2015, 20:11 Post #3058 |
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Now I've seen that picture of Lucy after losing her purse and phone, I've finally given up on my theory of Jay and Ben discovering her body on the common. Maybe Ben helped her get Jake into his flat and held her bag for her, and then robbed her and left the bag? I really hope this isn't going to be underwhelming. I don't really mind who did it as long as it makes sense and has a good impact on the other characters. As they've used CCTV I don't think they can suddenly say that people were on another bus or walking round Walford past the cameras without getting picked up. |
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| SunhillPumpkin | 11 Feb 2015, 20:15 Post #3059 |
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What I don't get is Lauren writing in the wedding card?will she say "I know its you oh Bovine Queen??," she's not heartless so won't rat Peter out,what if its Dean and that's the number for Blades? |
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| soetmo | 11 Feb 2015, 20:21 Post #3060 |
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Peter is such an easy way out - he can just leave afterwards... |
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