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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,776 Views)
Forest11
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Jane waked into Ian tonight to everything I do I do it for you. A clue she covered up Lucy's murder to protect Ian.
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12 Feb 2015, 21:47
Lauren has said revealing the killer would wreck so many lives and the hurt the people she's close to. Based on her behaviour, I think we can narrow the suspect list down dramatically.

It's a Beale.

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There's no way it's Les, Pam or Jay.

Ben isn't impossible, but predictable, and as Abi's boyfriend wouldn't have thrown Lauren into such turmoil.

Lauren has no issues living with Max and Abi, so it's not them.


Les and Pam were joke inclusions, and the joke wasn't funny. It as a tip to the tweet which originally named Les as the serial killing undertaker, something which some viewers believed. Les and Pam have a history with euthanising their son (yet more killers on the Square), which will be used in the storyline surrounding the introduction of their grandson, sometime next year.

I think Ben, with Jay in the background, nicked Lucy's purse and phone after the aborted off-licence robbery. It would just be the sort of mischievous thing DTC would do - re-introduce Ben to have him kill again - but in this case, I don't buy it. Jay has a high moral conscience, anyway. He was conflicted about the purse and phone when it was discovered.

Again, I would have been severely disappointed in this show if Abi had been found to be the killer. People talk about Abi's darker turn this year. That was all down to her jealous of Lola and insecurity in her relationship with Jay. She acted like a div and Jay dumped her. Until that point, Lauren had been the epic fail sister, and Abi rubbed that fact into her with kindness. Now she's unemployed, doing nothing and mooching off the old man, and she's jealous that Lauren's got a boyfriend. Loved the Hallowe'en bit when she tried to drown Lauren, though.

It's not Max. Max is a coward in many ways, but he's not a killer, even accidentally, and as you said, Lauren has no issues living in the house with him, even now.

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Whitney's possible, but is little more than an extra these days and has very few links left to Walford.


But she's a DTC creation, which means she ain't going nowhere. I'd heard that the actress has been ill a lot this year, needing time off filming, so maybe some re-writes had to be done and she wasn't featured as much in storylines regarding Lucy's death. What has Shabnam done with the "Rot in Hell" card, written by Whitney, that she saved? It's not Whitney. There was a script snippet in the thread of the same name for 24th February, and Whitney, Lauren and Lee are still around and still acting normally.

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Lee would be a massive let down and if they used PTSD as the reason for him suppressing it, then it would be a cop out.


Lee was once high on my list of suspects due to the facility with which he was able to get close to girls, intimate with them, then drop them on a moment's notice and take up with someone else. When he returned to the Square, he immediately started sniffing around Whitney with no thought or seeming memory of what went on with Lucy. He's also got a murderous temper. But making Lee the killer would land yet another storyline in the Carter's lap. I've no doubt Dean and Stan will both die at the hands of someone or two in that family, just to make more killers walking around, but not in this instance.

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Denise has crumbled slowly since April, and was almost certainly in the house when Lucy died, but I can't see her as a killer.


I don't think Denise killed Lucy. Denise's beef is with Ian and Jane the Queen. Even so, I don't think she's the killer.

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It's simply not Ian.


I don't think so either. Unless he did this accidentally, and is blocking out psychotically. And Jane is trying to cover for him. However, I think Ian was with Rainie when this happened. Lucy died in her home.

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Peter, Jane or Cindy for me. I've now got a feeling it wasn't Peter. Jane seems too obvious reading next week's spoilers. I'm looking at Cindy, but I don't know if they'd put 16 year-old Mimi under the pressure of a live reveal, and like Whitney Cindy has been all but relegated in past months.


Cindy would be totally underwhelming. As underwhelming as Abi or Whitney. For me, that narrows it to Peter or Jane. I do think it's Peter, and that Jane moved the body for him. Jane is involved somehow. There is only one person who could have accidentally killed Lucy - and I think it was an accident - whom Ian would forgive: Peter. However, at first, Ian would either impose and exile on Peter or Peter would impose it on himself. The actor is leaving. I think we all got caught up in how obvious it would be that Ben Hardy is leaving with Peter being the killer, but sometimes the most obvious suspect is the one who did it.

Peter did it. He'll go off to New Zealand for about five years, and somehow dead Nick Cotton will cop the blame.

That's what I think, anyway.

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12 Feb 2015, 23:55
Jane waked into Ian tonight to everything I do I do it for you. A clue she covered up Lucy's murder to protect Ian.
I could have sworn it was areosmith but then I already can't remember!
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Fehnder
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I rewatched, you were right!

If Lucy died in her home, and if Jane is involved or knows what happened, that makes her a monster in my eyes. Re watching that little scene made me realise how can a normal person seriously move into the house where Lucy died, and continue to live normally in the house when every second she would be able to imagine Lucy dead wherever it happened. Chilling.

I'm wondering if Lauren will get peter arrested and it will turn out to be Jane.
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It was Bryan Adams.

I think all of this comes back to Jane's car not being there (which is what I believe Emma referenced with her last words) and I can only see two people Jane would be willing to protect if she didn't do it herself and that's Ian and Peter.

Cindy wouldn't tear the Beale family apart, not really anyway. She isn't like Steven, who Ian raised from a baby and treated as his own, she simply threw herself into the family dynamic and Ian never had the heart to fully get rid of her. All he'd do is turn her in and they'd grieve as they already have been grieving.

For Ian, it would only be learning that he himself did it and has been blocking it out or Peter or Jane doing it that would have the biggest impact.

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I admit I have a few suspicions over Cindy as she wanted to tell Ian something on the day of the funeral. But that's simply because it was never brought up again, but tbh that could be anything. Maybe Cindy is key in deducting who the killer is like she saw something suspicious on that night and this will come out in the open after Laurens card is read. Barring this, the person I'm going to vote for is Peter. Even Hetti claims she had a dream about Peter killing her! It's just a silly gut instinct, in my mind I don't think peter is a killer. In fact I don't think he even realised what he did.
I think Lauren thinks that it's Jane, she must have worked something out from Emma's note and there was nothing in her notes that suggested it was Peter. Also Lauren's not studious but you don't need to be to figure out Jane's alibi was fake.
No one seems too concerned how the CCTV footage got cut though. The only people who know how to do this I think are possibly Max, Jay or Ben. Thoughts?
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I personally wonder if the cctv footage is only cut for us so as to not make it too obvious and the police probably had a different video, and different evidence to us too
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Hi everyone, good theories... Getting really juicy now...

I have a wierd feeling that Ben is going to be the new Nick... Especially as nick is getting killed off apparently and if do then "scum of the earth" will need a new face ie Ben!

That said, does it point to a) Ben being the killer as that is his new hobby now or b) he didn't do it as he has to stick around to replace Nick

So confusing! I never thought it could be Ben 'til tonight!
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Sorry i haven't had a chance to read the whole thread so this might have been picked up on
I still think its jane. And I think her car is very important
At 8pm on the night of the murder it was parked outside the Beale house
At 11pm when we saw Fatboys video and a shot of outside the house it was gone
The next morning it was back outside the house
Also tonight when Lauren was talking to Stacey in the cafe telling her about who she thought killed Lucy 'it's someone we knew it will ruin lives of many people I care about' the next person we see is jane in the restaurant.
Edited by Christina, 13 Feb 2015, 01:29.
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For me it's always been either Jayne, Abi or Denise. It's looking more and more likely that Jayne is the killer or at least had a hand but it could easily be misdirection. However I have been thinking back to past Eastenders whodunits and the same pattern usually takes place. We come up with lots of different theories and then the most logical and therefore predictable character is the killer. In that case it would be Peter (angry that night, drugs, actor is leaving). I'd still love the story but I'd prefer the murderer to be someone a bit more shocking.

One thing that I read on a youtube video was about the scene were Emma meeting the killer. It shows the killer walking away and they have picked apart their polystyrene cup and someone noted that Abi has done this on previous occasions? This has probably been mentioned here before but I found it interesting...
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Cindy was definitely at home at some point in the evening. 'Are you coming back tonight?' sounds like a voicemail sent from the Beale house.

I've just watched the preview clips for the Graham Norton special and seen them cringing at some of the obsessive fans trying to sole the mystery. I wonder what they'd make of us. :unsure:
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It was definately Everything I Do I Do It For You, which as far as I know is still Number One :P

I hadn't noticed the similarity to the Aerosmith song (I Don't Want To Miss A Thing?) until now.
Happy Christmas Ange.




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Before Dean came back to the Square, he was sneaking about for a bit, could he have seen Peter with the drug dealer gone round to demand money from him came across and killed Lucy???who was found by the Bovine Queen she assumed the killer was Ian and covered it up????

Heck we are smarties, no other show has fans as clever as us :P
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Dean being the killer would add to another storyline to the Carters in addition to the shit ton of stories that they have now. And yes, Dean is a Carter. Carter and Briggs by blood, but Wicks by name (though once Buster comes back, I expect him to forget about that.).
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The killer is definitely one of the big group standing around Emma when the text went through.

It is also a member of the Beale family. Not only is Lauren uneasy around the lot of them (she may have the family right but not the individual) but the Beale family are currently going through a very honeymoon, heart-warming sitcom rom com phase, finally thinking of the future despite the horrors they have suffered this year. Usually, this means that the rug is going to be pulled out from under them in the worst possible way - think Mick and how ecstatically happy he was on Christmas Day for example.

Lee or Whitney are more suspicious than Max and Abi now but the only three people it could be for that heart-breaking, tear-the-family-apart effect are Ian, Peter and Jane.

If it was one of the former two, the latter helped covered it up and the innocent one will feel horrifically betrayed and unable to trust anyone as will the guilty one if they have blocked it out mentally. If it's the latter, the former two will face the sting of betrayal with it being the stepmother and wife having committed this horrific act.

Nick may die having never been punished for the first murder that we saw on the Square which he did commit but he may also die being punished for the last murder we saw on the Square which he did not commit. DTC likes irony, he is guilty of overusing it at times so I do agree that this is what will happen.

Edited by Dan, 13 Feb 2015, 11:58.
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I like the fact that Nick came back Halloween and is dying on Friday the 13th. As of last night, he's comatose and in the process.
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I read this article this morning: https://uk.beamly.com/exclusives/eastenders-investigator-killed-lucy-beale-moneys-jane-twist/?utm_source=facebookads&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Lucy_110215

It's not the first time I've read an article from this site that appears to have directly lifted its theories from here. I suggested the Lucy taunting Jane about her childlessness angle a few weeks ago. Some of the other bits of the article you might recognise as your own theories. How flattering! Welcome, beamly writers! :p
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Check the website at 8.30pm.

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I made a little bet lol

Could not bet the big shots hardly worth the money but thought it would be good to have a little fun

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Awesome new trailer. Ian looked fuming...makes me think it's not him? Were Lauren and Peter at a hospital?
Edited by King Billy, 13 Feb 2015, 21:37.
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