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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,766 Views)
SunhillPumpkin
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Are the TV guides going to focus on other aspects of the show tomorrow?
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Forest11
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I wonder if it was Peter but he cant remember all the details such as who covered it up.
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Katie
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I don't think the Carters need another storyline so Lee could be completely innocent, but I'm sure Whitney was involved in something that night. I don't think they've changed anything because Bianca left, if they had planned more Whitney scenes during this storyline I'm sure it could have been done with Carol.

I agree about the 'gone' line. If someone said that to me I'm sure I'd be thinking 'gone where?' It seemed like the kind of thing you'd say when someone was in hospital and there was a chance they could die. It almost seemed like Ian and Peter both knew something happened to Lucy, and were waiting to find out if they'd killed her or if she'd survived, although I'm not suggesting that happened.

I'm going to miss the speculation after Thursday!
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Fehnder
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I disagree about the she's gone part.

I had to phone my parents last year in a&e to inform them of a death and I couldn't bring myself to say it outright. Almost disbelief and trying to break the news in a way that seemed less hard on the person being told. As a result I said the word gone instead of dead, and my mum asked the same thing "gone where?"

I think personally it's quite accurate when you are just lost for words and wanting to be gentle for the sake of the person you're telling.

As for peters reaction, the reaction I got once I reclarified was pretty damn similar.

I'm not sure you can second guess the genuineness (is that a word?!) of grief.
Edited by Fehnder, 16 Feb 2015, 23:40.
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SunhillPumpkin
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Let's say for a bit the sky gossip is true, beyond boys and bullying what could have drove the accused so wild???
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Mrs Peel
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Apart from the instance where Peter took cocaine on his birthday in December, he's never been on drugs. He bought cocaine for Lucy because he thought he could control her intake. Bad assumption. If an addict wants his fix, he'll get it.

What he was, however, that night, is angry at Ian's remarks about favouring Lucy over him.

To this day, no one knows where Peter was that night. The police simply haven't pursued this, and after Ian, Peter would be the one person they'd have been over like a bad rash. Lola told Billy Peter had returned home - he was living with her at the time - very late that night and very upset.
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I think I have had a brain wave with the whole Lauren is the killer- theory. We know she wanted booze that night and when she went to the Beale household there was no one there so she went to the car lot and drank (mirrored in the recent episode). Lucy saw the light on and thinking it's Max enters the car lot to find a very drunk Lauren. An argument begins, maybe it comes out about Lucy and Max's affair and Lauren lashes out and inadvertently kills Lucy.

Max whilst walking the dog (Emma was tipped off by the just 5 minutes clue) sees the light on and enters the car lot to find everything. He doesn't want his daughter's life ruined so he puts Lucy's body in a nearby car (not his) and takes Lauren home. He then drives to the common and dumps the body. Lauren was so drunk that she doesn't remember the next day and Max keeps it a secret to protect her (we see him hungover the day after so possibly drowning his sorrows).

Max and Abi clean the car lot floor to remove Lucy's blood from her death (not the fall a couple of days prior). This is why Emma says "it wasn't there" and "you know what" to Max, referring to the blood. Max gets close to Emma in the beginning in order to keep on track with the investigation and when she is getting too close to the truth he gets her fired to protect the secret.

When Lauren finds the piece of the paper with Scene of the Crime on and the number to the car lot she realises that it must have been her because she was there that night. This is why she is terrified to be around the Beales, why she freaked out when Stacey called the police and why she hasn't told anyone yet.

Emma originally thought it was Max who did it but when he met her in the park he explained what happened and that's why she changed to 'keeping the secret' and not 'your secret'.
Edited by astrum1989, 17 Feb 2015, 01:52.
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Mrs Peel
17 Feb 2015, 01:24
Apart from the instance where Peter took cocaine on his birthday in December, he's never been on drugs. He bought cocaine for Lucy because he thought he could control her intake. Bad assumption. If an addict wants his fix, he'll get it.

What he was, however, that night, is angry at Ian's remarks about favouring Lucy over him.

Can we be sure of that? The paparazzi photos, which are claimed to be of the filming of the flashbacks, seem to show Peter buying drugs, perhaps for Lucy. If he was really upset after overhearing Ian's remark, he may have also taken them himself that night. As you point out, we do know he was very angry.
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sherlockwanabe
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Guys I have a really wierd feeling it could be Peter now... I read in another thread on Dig Spy that there are some references to Easter the bible and Christianity which I thought "er yeah ok calling it week of revelations doesn't make her Jesus" then just now I had a very odd thought: what if the ref is to Cain ad Abel???

"6Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you furious? And why are you downcast?[3] 7If you do right, won't you be accepted? But if you do not do right, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must master it."

8Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field."[4]

And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him."
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16 Feb 2015, 09:46
He said "it could be anyone". So there's a possibility the killer isn't one of the final suspects.

And we find out the killer during the flashback, not at the end of the hour ep.
Ok well now I'm convinced.... I reckon Lucy was accidently killed by..... Rainie and with Jake's help in placing her body in the common.
Just a couple of things pointed me in this direction....
I believe the letter that Peter dropped outside the train station was picked up by Jake and not Cameron (it's in the eyes!!!).
Also when Emma met the killer in the park she asked the canteen attendant if he could stay open a for a few minutes as the person she was meeting may be hungry....possibly meaning that the person she was meeting could've been somewhat homeless or of no fixed address perhaps? This could quite easily relate to Rainie...as could the cocaine connection.
Another clue perhaps was when Emma then sat them down and asked them to explain 'right from the start'...could this have been a reference by the writers to Jake as he was the initial suspect 'right from the start'?
And with both actors taking part in the flashback episode and Tanya Branning returning briefly there's another connection.
Anyway that's my theory/conclusion ...Rainie with Jake ;)
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Jamie Fowler
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Rainie and Jake have never interacted, and Jake was too drunk that night to stand let alone move a body. This would also literally have no impact.
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astrum1989
17 Feb 2015, 01:43
I think I have had a brain wave with the whole Lauren is the killer- theory. We know she wanted booze that night and when she went to the Beale household there was no one there so she went to the car lot and drank (mirrored in the recent episode). Lucy saw the light on and thinking it's Max enters the car lot to find a very drunk Lauren. An argument begins, maybe it comes out about Lucy and Max's affair and Lauren lashes out and inadvertently kills Lucy.

Max whilst walking the dog (Emma was tipped off by the just 5 minutes clue) sees the light on and enters the car lot to find everything. He doesn't want his daughter's life ruined so he puts Lucy's body in a nearby car (not his) and takes Lauren home. He then drives to the common and dumps the body. Lauren was so drunk that she doesn't remember the next day and Max keeps it a secret to protect her (we see him hungover the day after so possibly drowning his sorrows).

Max and Abi clean the car lot floor to remove Lucy's blood from her death (not the fall a couple of days prior). This is why Emma says "it wasn't there" and "you know what" to Max, referring to the blood. Max gets close to Emma in the beginning in order to keep on track with the investigation and when she is getting too close to the truth he gets her fired to protect the secret.

When Lauren finds the piece of the paper with Scene of the Crime on and the number to the car lot she realises that it must have been her because she was there that night. This is why she is terrified to be around the Beales, why she freaked out when Stacey called the police and why she hasn't told anyone yet.

Emma originally thought it was Max who did it but when he met her in the park he explained what happened and that's why she changed to 'keeping the secret' and not 'your secret'.
See I could easily see this being true. They might make it work still, but if it wasn't for her maternity leave, she'd be my prime suspect.

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DRAPPLEdreamers1992
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I don't think it's Lauren, but I like the theory that whoever called Lucy did so from the Max's car lot.

In recent weeks our attention has been dwindling away from one of the most important places for Lucy.. and then the writers direct us onto that bold as brass sign put outside the arches with the same S O C number.

But is it possible that number also somehow links to the car lot? Also when Abi confessed to Keeble about following Max and Lucy she said she used Laurens laptop so that it couldn't be traced back to her. Was this important?

I reckon someone used either the arches phone when they shouldn't have actually been there..

or someone used the phone at the car lot when they shouldn't have. (Max in his five mins?)

And also all these business lingo is taking its toll on me in the weeks up to her death.
1) Ian's regaining of the restaurant, putting it in his own name which Lucy was furious about as he'd stolen it back from her
2) LB lettings. Lucy's mock account about "no one will under estimate me again" must have had something to do with businesses and money.
3) And last it seems stupid that Max has a mundane storyline where he owns the arches for a mere handful of weeks, when we know Phil will come back with all the Mitchell's wrath in toe. But the scene where he explained to Ben about switching the businesses into his name could be important, his bull about being a "guardian" of sorts to ben showed us how easy it could have been to trick someone into doing something they'd later regret. I know Ben was stupid but Ian and Lucy had equally played each other like fiddles over their empire in past years.
Edited by DRAPPLEdreamers1992, 17 Feb 2015, 13:08.
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Forest11
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The TV guides focus on the Carters and Sharon Only mention of who Killed Lucy is Kebble visits the square on Monday. Stan Lee or Babe not mentioned
Edited by Forest11, 17 Feb 2015, 13:33.
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WalfordGirl
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Don't you think it's bizarre how it's almost the year anniversary since Lucy's death & not one of the Beale clan has even mentioned it once? They're too busy faffing around with this wedding. Oh, soapland...
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Winters
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It's true there was some genuine animosity to Max from Emma. I wonder what it was? He's bound to know something, surely.
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JimRRR
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Danny Pennant killed Lucy
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WalfordGirl
17 Feb 2015, 14:00
Don't you think it's bizarre how it's almost the year anniversary since Lucy's death & not one of the Beale clan has even mentioned it once? They're too busy faffing around with this wedding. Oh, soapland...
Lucy died on April 18th, which is almost two whole months away. They're hardly going to go 'Oh, Lucy died 10 months ago today!', I'm sure there will be a mention on or near the real anniversary.
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sherlockwanabe
17 Feb 2015, 08:28
Guys I have a really wierd feeling it could be Peter now... I read in another thread on Dig Spy that there are some references to Easter the bible and Christianity which I thought "er yeah ok calling it week of revelations doesn't make her Jesus" then just now I had a very odd thought: what if the ref is to Cain ad Abel???

"6Then the LORD said to Cain, "Why are you furious? And why are you downcast?[3] 7If you do right, won't you be accepted? But if you do not do right, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is for you, but you must master it."

8Cain said to his brother Abel, "Let's go out to the field."[4]

And while they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him."
I have said before that DTC derives inspiration from any and all manner of classical literature - Greek tragedies, Shakespeare and the Bible. He has said so, himself.

This could very well be Cain and Abel in reverse. If this storyline isn't, then the Mick-Dean storyline certainly is.
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Leon
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I've just been struck with a horrible feeling that it's Ben.
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