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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,761 Views)
Blondie08
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It's looking like most of the pictured suspects each had a part to play in this, although I can't fit in Les and Pam at the moment!

So exciting though, tonight's episode didn't disappoint, didn't see that coming with Max blurting out to Abi although had thought that Abi and Max think it's each other.

Anyone think Lauren is on her way to the clinic?!

Still can't figure it all out, my brain is fried also, I entered ian or peter on the competition although thinking it's someone we may not have seen coming... Surely it's one of the suspects...or is it!

They certainly had their parts to play I think we will find out.

Does anyone think it's Bens passport Phil bought out?! Is Phil about to confess Bens involvement or is this one of the other stories we've been hearing about that we will get answers to?!?! Hmmmmmm
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Blondie08
18 Feb 2015, 00:41
It's looking like most of the pictured suspects each had a part to play in this, although I can't fit in Les and Pam at the moment!

So exciting though, tonight's episode didn't disappoint, didn't see that coming with Max blurting out to Abi although had thought that Abi and Max think it's each other.

Anyone think Lauren is on her way to the clinic?!

Still can't figure it all out, my brain is fried also, I entered ian or peter on the competition although thinking it's someone we may not have seen coming... Surely it's one of the suspects...or is it!

They certainly had their parts to play I think we will find out.

Does anyone think it's Bens passport Phil bought out?! Is Phil about to confess Bens involvement or is this one of the other stories we've been hearing about that we will get answers to?!?! Hmmmmmm
I think Lauren has gone to find Tanya and that's what will bring Tanya to the wedding? Also, I think Phil is going to confess to Ian that Ben mugged Lucy and that he thinks the mugging killed her (even though it didn't).
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Blondie08
18 Feb 2015, 00:41
Does anyone think it's Bens passport Phil bought out?!
It doesn't add up to me. If Phil is getting Ben's passport to get him out of the country I doubt he'd stop at Ian's wedding to tell him. Ian would go straight after Ben and failing that; to the police and stop him from leaving the country.

This is a long-shot but might Phil still have had Lexi's passport? Maybe he thinks Lola did it and is getting Lexi back to Portugal to stop her from going into care. I've never really believed it could be Lola but a few things do point to her, such as the pictures Pam found which Billy said must be Peters. Ben and Jay obviously know something and Lola is one of the only people they'd both cover for.
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doink
18 Feb 2015, 11:25
Blondie08
18 Feb 2015, 00:41
Does anyone think it's Bens passport Phil bought out?!
It doesn't add up to me. If Phil is getting Ben's passport to get him out of the country I doubt he'd stop at Ian's wedding to tell him. Ian would go straight after Ben and failing that; to the police and stop him from leaving the country.

This is a long-shot but might Phil still have had Lexi's passport? Maybe he thinks Lola did it and is getting Lexi back to Portugal to stop her from going into care. I've never really believed it could be Lola but a few things do point to her, such as the pictures Pam found which Billy said must be Peters. Ben and Jay obviously know something and Lola is one of the only people they'd both cover for.
Why would Phil tell Ian anything to do with Lola or Ben before he had left the country and completed the main aim of his plan. Does not Make sense.
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Just expanding on that, as this is the first time I've seriously questioned it being Lola in my mind. Could Jay have been having an affair with Lucy?

It gives Abi a bigger motive as Lucy would be sleeping with her dad and boyfriend, if Max found this out then it's why he thinks Abi did it. It'd give Lola a reason to be confronting Lucy as she was best friends with both Jay and Abi.

Ben and Jay are obviously hiding something and I can't see it being a mugging.

Abi found out about the affair, Lola came around as a shoulder to cry on. Lucy went around the the brannings house to look for Max who was out walking the dog. Abi, Lola and Lucy get into a fight, Lola lands the fatal blow. They panic and ring Jay from the house phone, who was with Ben. They come and get rid of Lucy. Max gets home to just Abi and some mess/blood and presumes the worse.
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basdfg
18 Feb 2015, 11:41
Why would Phil tell Ian anything to do with Lola or Ben before he had left the country and completed the main aim of his plan. Does not Make sense.
Because he isn't trying to get Lola out of the country, he wants Lexi again. He'd do anything to protect Ben but I don't think he cares about Lola all that much.
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doink
18 Feb 2015, 11:52
basdfg
18 Feb 2015, 11:41
Why would Phil tell Ian anything to do with Lola or Ben before he had left the country and completed the main aim of his plan. Does not Make sense.
Because he isn't trying to get Lola out of the country, he wants Lexi again. He'd do anything to protect Ben but I don't think he cares about Lola all that much.
But that cant be part of the plan as Peggy and Billy are trying persuade him not to tell Ian. I doubt Billy would meekly go ahead with Phil taking Lexi to Portugal just like that.
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If Jay had been having an affair with Lucy, that would mean she was seeing Max, Lee and Jay at the time of her death. I highly doubt that!
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18 Feb 2015, 11:59
But that cant be part of the plan as Peggy and Billy are trying persuade him not to tell Ian. I doubt Billy would meekly go ahead with Phil taking Lexi to Portugal just like that.
You're presuming Billy knows everything.

With Peggy coming back and going straight to Dot's, it kind of plays into the hands of what most people think; Nick is being lined up to take the fall for it. The Mitchells would only set that up for one of their own.

I'm not saying I think this is what happened, I'm just thinking out loud here.
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doink
18 Feb 2015, 12:13
basdfg
18 Feb 2015, 11:59
But that cant be part of the plan as Peggy and Billy are trying persuade him not to tell Ian. I doubt Billy would meekly go ahead with Phil taking Lexi to Portugal just like that.
You're presuming Billy knows everything.

With Peggy coming back and going straight to Dot's, it kind of plays into the hands of what most people think; Nick is being lined up to take the fall for it. The Mitchells would only set that up for one of their own.

I'm not saying I think this is what happened, I'm just thinking out loud here.
Peggy dosent know Nick is dead. Plus Peggy and Billy don't think Ian should know makes it sound intriguing.
If they taking Lexi I suspect Billy would know so that they could get her.
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18 Feb 2015, 12:12
If Jay had been having an affair with Lucy, that would mean she was seeing Max, Lee and Jay at the time of her death. I highly doubt that!
Out of all the craziness going on in the show and with any of these theories, a women sleeping with 3 blokes instead of 2 is what you are doubting? Lol

This case file is worth a read - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5yWpfHS1646XRCg3rtPjTp9/walford-gazette-12th-may-2014
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basdfg
18 Feb 2015, 12:30
Peggy dosent know Nick is dead. Plus Peggy and Billy don't think Ian should know makes it sound intriguing.
If they taking Lexi I suspect Billy would know so that they could get her.
Peggy doesn't need to know, she just wanted to know where he was. With Dot saying that he's gone and not coming back, the Mitchells are now free to frame him somehow.

Even if Billy did know something, he'd want Phil to not talk to Ian as his priority is keeping Lola out of jail. The flip side is that Billy wasn't acting suspicious enough, which is why I don't he knows everything. Maybe Phil is letting this bomb off, leaving Billy to try and help Lola which leaves Lexi unattended.
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doink
18 Feb 2015, 12:39
basdfg
18 Feb 2015, 12:30
Peggy dosent know Nick is dead. Plus Peggy and Billy don't think Ian should know makes it sound intriguing.
If they taking Lexi I suspect Billy would know so that they could get her.
Peggy doesn't need to know, she just wanted to know where he was. With Dot saying that he's gone and not coming back, the Mitchells are now free to frame him somehow.

Even if Billy did know something, he'd want Phil to not talk to Ian as his priority is keeping Lola out of jail. The flip side is that Billy wasn't acting suspicious enough, which is why I don't he knows everything. Maybe Phil is letting this bomb off, leaving Billy to try and help Lola which leaves Lexi unattended.
Surely the risk if that Nick could come back and have evidence he was not involved with Lucy.
If Phil thinks Lola is the killer and is going to tell Ian he knows Ben will end up being implicated
And Lola has Lexi's passport surely.
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18 Feb 2015, 12:47
Surely the risk if that Nick could come back and have evidence he was not involved with Lucy.
If Phil thinks Lola is the killer and is going to tell Ian he knows Ben will end up being implicated
And Lola has Lexi's passport surely.
Even if he was still alive I doubt he has any evidence/alibi to prove his innocence if the framing job was convincing enough, he's a known heroin addict/armed robber/murderer after all.

Hmm yeah bit's of this idea don't yet work. Phil can't tell Ian the truth and then pin it on Nick as Ian has no reason to go along with it. Unless he's telling Ian that Nick did it, in which case he's no reason to get Ben/Lexi out of the country.
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I suppose Phil could persuade Ian to frame Nick if it was Ben but not if it was Lola.
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Blondie08
18 Feb 2015, 00:41
It's looking like most of the pictured suspects each had a part to play in this, although I can't fit in Les and Pam at the moment!

So exciting though, tonight's episode didn't disappoint, didn't see that coming with Max blurting out to Abi although had thought that Abi and Max think it's each other.

Anyone think Lauren is on her way to the clinic?!

Still can't figure it all out, my brain is fried also, I entered ian or peter on the competition although thinking it's someone we may not have seen coming... Surely it's one of the suspects...or is it!

They certainly had their parts to play I think we will find out.

Does anyone think it's Bens passport Phil bought out?! Is Phil about to confess Bens involvement or is this one of the other stories we've been hearing about that we will get answers to?!?! Hmmmmmm
Lauren could well be on her way to the clinic. From the trailer we know her and Peter have another scene in an unfamiliar building - I thought it was a hospital but well be the clinic.
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17 Feb 2015, 22:26
I suspected for a while that Abi and Max suspected that one of them had killed Lucy and had covered it up. What confuses me, however, is the matter of when Max 'found out'.

If Abi had run to Max on the night Lucy died, he would have wanted to know what happened. At that point, Abi would have had to confess that she knew he'd slept with Lucy- but Max didn't know she knew until just before the funeral. If they write it any other way it will be a contradiction of that scene.

This leads me to believe that Ben and Jay may have moved the body back to Walford Common, where they'd seen her earlier. Phil tells Ian that Ben was covering was Abi, and then the real killer steps forward.

Or, Abi rushes for help and finds Jane, who, knowing what really happened, moves Lucy in her car. We know she moved her car that night as shown by it facing forwards, disappearing, and facing backwards the next morning. We know that because her car 'wasn't there' when Lauren was recorded, she can't have been looking out of the window.

I want to say it's Cindy but I can't see them putting Mimi under such pressure. Peter and Jane seem too obvious. I can't call it, but what I'm sure of is that we can rule out Max, Abi and Lauren.
Abi spied Max and Lucy kissing. Initially, Abi may have thought Max killed Lucy, hence Max asking Abi to clean the bloodstain from his carpet. Cora saw this and reported it to the police, but nothing evolved from it.

Most probably, when Abi blurted out to Max that she knew he was sleeping with Lucy, she told him how she'd known and maybe that she'd confronted Lucy. That was probably when Max thought Abi had killed her.
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Blondie08
18 Feb 2015, 00:41
Does anyone think it's Bens passport Phil bought out?! Is Phil about to confess Bens involvement or is this one of the other stories we've been hearing about that we will get answers to?!?! Hmmmmmm
Bin-GO! Thank you!

Phil suspects Ben. He's about to tell Ian of his suspicions and to ask Ian not to grass Ben to the police because Phil is sending Ben away forever.
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18 Feb 2015, 13:37
Blondie08
18 Feb 2015, 00:41
Does anyone think it's Bens passport Phil bought out?! Is Phil about to confess Bens involvement or is this one of the other stories we've been hearing about that we will get answers to?!?! Hmmmmmm
Bin-GO! Thank you!

Phil suspects Ben. He's about to tell Ian of his suspicions and to ask Ian not to grass Ben to the police because Phil is sending Ben away forever.
Why though? Why would he tell Ian instead of just grabbing Ben and going? Would Ian automatically assume it was to do with Lucy? Especially when Ben said he'd told him everything?

If the police were in the square and the investigation was heating up again, then he would suspect something. But not at the moment.
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From tonight's preview clip, we know Ben walks in on Phil and Ian in the kitchen. So why was Ben looking like he's just seen a ghost in the pub in the new trailer? It can't be Phil because he already knows he's back.
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