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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,760 Views)
Mrs Peel
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King Billy
18 Feb 2015, 13:41
Mrs Peel
18 Feb 2015, 13:37

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Why though? Why would he tell Ian instead of just grabbing Ben and going? Would Ian automatically assume it was to do with Lucy? Especially when Ben said he'd told him everything?

If the police were in the square and the investigation was heating up again, then he would suspect something. But not at the moment.
Ben is Ian's brother. Ben told Ian a story, a lie, about how he came to have Lucy's purse and phone in his possession and how and why Jay buried them.

Ben is also on licence from prison for having killed Heather. The least illegality with which he's involved and he's back inside.

Ben told Phil a closer approximation to the truth about why he had Lucy's things. This was told off-screen.

Phil thinks Ben killed Lucy or was involved in her killing. Whilst he's not prepared to see his son go back to prison, he is prepared to send his son away from his side forever to compensate for this crime. But first, he has to tell Ian, Ben's brother, his suspicions, and - if they're proven right - to get Ian to agree to an unending exile for Ben rather than calling the police and sending him back to prison.

This is a gentler method of persuasion, and one with more respect, than was employed by Phil, when Ian was made aware that Ben had killed Heather.

By the way, Phil can't go anyplace out of the country. He's on bail. If he leaves the country, he's in deep doo-doo.
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Katie
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I wonder if they rehearsed the live scenes not knowing which episode they'd be in until recently? So there are a few scenes with people saying someone killed Lucy, with the actors not knowing which one would be shown as the actual reveal. Or maybe none of them will be the reveal if we find out in the flashback.
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Something that was mentioned on the Q&A chat last night, not a obvious spoiler but could be something in this? I'll cover to be on the safe side!

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Edited by Hazard, 18 Feb 2015, 14:04.
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JimRRR
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Danny Pennant killed Lucy
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Forest11
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Mimi Keane is 16 now so I don't think her parents will formally have to be told through they probably would.
The killer has probably known for weeks
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JimRRR
18 Feb 2015, 14:02
Danny Pennant killed Lucy
Danny Pennant was ruled out by the police pretty much straight away.
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I think it's quite clear that tonight's ep will be about putting the blame on Ben and he will replace Abi as the top suspect. Of course he didn't do it but it's all part of the twists and turns of this week. He probably thinks his mugging of Lucy caused her fatal injuries. We will probably get another suspect tomorrow (probably Whitney) and then the flashback will show all of their interactions with Lucy prior to her being killed by the real killer (Denise/Jane/Ian/Peter/Bobby/Lauren).
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Hazard
18 Feb 2015, 14:02
Something that was mentioned on the Q&A chat last night, not a obvious spoiler but could be something in this? I'll cover to be on the safe side!

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I really don't believe that the killer doesn't know, Adam Woodyatt also looked rather sly on Graham Norton when the subject was brought up so I think he must have been told. I also don't think it's Ian for this reason as following Danny's speculation that Adam knew he made a lot of vulgar jokes about it being him. Could be reading too much into it but Ben Hardy looked REALLY nervous when Graham entertained the possibility of it being him, also I know he's not an older character but I'm surprised he wasn't on stage with Adam. He doesn't reallyy need to be nervous about being the killer as he's leaving soon after the reveal anyway.
Edited by DRAPPLEdreamers1992, 18 Feb 2015, 14:24.
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Winters
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This was just posted on Daily Mail:

"SPOILER ALERT. I know the prods and it was Cindy who killed Lucy. Jane and Bobby carted off to keep the secret. There knew this 10 months ago, so there hasnt been any deliberations. Bobby put the jewellery box under the tree to remind Cindy."

Could there be anything to it?
(I would be under-whelmed personally - child-killing).
Edited by Winters, 18 Feb 2015, 16:51.
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This is what i think ...

Janes plan was to marry Ian so this ensures she gets all the businesses etc, it wasn't guilty/pity sex it was planned, she keeps evidence under floorboards, indecisive about telling police about evidence etc because she falls back in love with the captain! Didnt want a big wedding? Mother couldn't make it? Crying in the plain wedding suity thingy because she has realised she cannot go through with it as shes fell back in love, suddenly buys a better wedding dress, expands on the celebrations of the wedding, looks more happy also adding Ian shipping her favourite flowers from Africa, favourite songs, memories etc etc...

There is a monster on the square.

The monstrous act of sleeping with someone, letting them fall in love with you again, marrry them then turn them in (maybe secretly), btw not for all her our gains, this provides insurance for Bobby, Peter, Cindy with control freak Jane in control.

That monster proposed.

But she does fall back in love and is now planning on spending the rest of her life with Ian, but now its revealed someone knows some information, someone wont let it go, Lauren. Lauren knows that Ian was out with her lovely Aunt that night and that Jane was round the masoods (false alibi from Jane), but Lauren doesn't know this, (so continuing her thought process, Lauren's educative guesswork) this leaves 2 people in Beale household, Peter and Denise.

She believes that Peter killed Lucy, she runs off in a taxi and has an ABORTION! This adds to the sadness of the story of what DTC has said as Peter didn't kill her.

Max THINKS
Abi THINKS
Jane KNOWS
Denise KNOWS
Ian REMEMBERS
* Max + Abi red herring madness
* Jane + Denise put body on common
* Denise doesn't know of Janes plan
* Ian remembers - Told Denise+Jane "Lucys died" in terms on context Who says "died"? You only use "died" either if you expected someone to die of old age, illness etc or if you followed "died" up with an immediate happening/excuse as to why, this never happened. No quick questions from Jane or Denise just emotion-filled faces. Ian crying/being sick at moments from Peter, police etc. No one will guess exactly what happened, who cares if she was hit with the jewellery box? its only important if it leads us closer to who killed her, being too specific may make it too complicated to think straight when trying to find the answers (ABI being the killer LOL) So i have no detailed story of events (benjay i think are just covering themselves), just what i have mentioned.

The amount of red herrings there has been is kind of ridiculous so it has to be a HUGE character as it cannot go like this...

Jake!Lee!Abi!Max!Jay!Ben!Jane!Abi!.. Oh its Pam... Well done EE very clever... No, it has to be a big character for this much red herrings/money invested into this story. Only realistic big characters (Adult) i can think are Ian, Phil, Sharon, Ronnie? Denise? Arguably the most impact killer for me is Sharon (wow, imagine) then Ian>Phil>Denise>Ronnie.

Aleks Shirovs - The smart reveal, good back story (maybe Ronnie waking up/Vincent events will lead to Aleks :D), thought was value in market, win £8500. (placed in summer)

Ian Beale - Explained above, win £4000. (placed recently)

Ignore any grammar errors as i struggle with writing :)

But the killer is ... Ian Beale. (Is there a better way to leave the show?)

Will Walford ever be the same? LOL.
Edited by Henry, 18 Feb 2015, 17:00.
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leobeast
18 Feb 2015, 13:44
From tonight's preview clip, we know Ben walks in on Phil and Ian in the kitchen. So why was Ben looking like he's just seen a ghost in the pub in the new trailer? It can't be Phil because he already knows he's back.
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I think Peter and Lauren trailer scene looks like it could be at a clinic but would they make a heavily pregnant woman act out the aftermath of an abortion( If Peter does not get there in time)
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It has just dawned me that we find out the killer tomorrow. TOMORROW. Even saying that feels strange.
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Thanks Nick
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Gaz
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Winters
18 Feb 2015, 16:51
This was just posted on Daily Mail:

"SPOILER ALERT. I know the prods and it was Cindy who killed Lucy. Jane and Bobby carted off to keep the secret. There knew this 10 months ago, so there hasnt been any deliberations. Bobby put the jewellery box under the tree to remind Cindy."

Could there be anything to it?
(I would be under-whelmed personally - child-killing).
Posted on Daily Fail + "I know the prods" = several large buckets of salt to be taken.
Happy Christmas Ange.




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Henry
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I cannot see why they wouldn't, there isn't a morality issue for me, but this is from a 23 year old naive male :)
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Winters
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No, but as the more likely suspects are being weeded out one by one, it's not looking that unlikely.
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Billy has just jumped 4.5/1 :))))
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I do think the killer was one of the 14 suspects. I'm not convinced it's someone else. Remember back in 2010 when there were loads of bets on Sean killing Archie?
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Tomorrow. Tomorrow.

Thankfully I'm rushed off my feet at work so very little time to clock-watch. I think tomorrow could be the exception however.
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Spooky shot from Monday 14th April. Is Lucy's killer lurking behind her?

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