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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,757 Views)
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I hope it's not Peter, without him realising what he's done because that breaks the rule of murder mysteries - the best ones keep the audience guessing and being wrong-footed, but should make sense when all the facts are revealed. EE have consistently portrayed this as a murder, something sinister - which is not to say it was carried out by a moustache-twirling villain - it may have been heat of the moment and it may have been a source of regret, but it was still an act of murder. For Peter to have accidentally killed his twin and not even realised would be truly tragic - a powerful storyline in its own right, but not one which fits into what the writers have created. I can't reconcile him in my head with what I've watched on screen for months.

The only one I could buy into having killed her and not realised is Ian, with some kind of break in his mental state - which he does have a history of.

Jane being the killer and having covered it up, I can buy. But I now think it's too obvious. I think she's covering for someone else. And sadly it does seem most likely that it's Peter. And it brings Jane's story back round to tragic, rather than wicked step-mother - she loves Peter, she doesn't want his life ruined too and she possibly blames Ian for being at the root of it all and putting such pressure on his kids in the first place and making Peter always seem second best to his sister ...

I don't like it though. I'd actually rather it was Ian.
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I have just discovered a dead bird on the floor of my brothers room which I can only assume my cat brought in (she's casually laying on the bed)...It freaks me out so I've had to call my boyfriends dad to dispose of it....so you can be safely assured it wasn't me and maybe I can come to a Lucy conclusion using this.....

Peter killed Lucy, Jane comes in and finds Peter just standing over her in shock Jane can't bring herself to move the body alone so gives Denise a call to help out.
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19 Feb 2015, 02:03
Shall take your word for it, in any event I will still think it's him. But if he really is actually trying to put Jane in the frame then I've had a huge lapse in judgement over Peter. However is interesting that Hetti Bywater said in an article that Peter was her own choice second to a suicide. She dreamt Peter had intentionally killed her and premeditated, it which would take an extreme amount of Patience and control on Peter's part. If their is this really dark side to Peter I'm not sure how it would make the actors emotional. DTW said the reveal would leave a lump in the viewer's throat, I always attributed this to some sort of tragedy. But maybe if the story is told in the right way it could work.
I just think how Dominic Treadwell-Collins has often said that he gets his inspiration from the classics - Greek tragedy, Shakespeare, old Bible stories. This is the classic Cain-Abel situation. Cain killed his brother Abel in a fit of pique because he perceived Abel to be the favoured child, and they were twins. Then Cain was exiled.

Originally, I thought that the Cain-Abel scenario would be played out between Mick and Dean, but the ultimate tragic figure in their relationship is Shirley.

Think about the circumstances in which Peter left Walford to go to Devon: He was accused of having pushed Glenda down the stairs. He didn't, but he was made, by Phil and by Ian, to take the blame for Ben in order for Ben to avoid being sent back to YOP - therefore, he perceived that Ian had more affection for his brother than for his son.

We've heard Peter's version of his friend's swimming death whilst he was in Devon. There's been his controlling behaviour of Lola, before binning her. He even sought to control Lucy's addiction, and that could be a subtle way of controlling her. He knows that Lauren is an addict, and he would have probably have used that method to control her.

Something about Peter has been off-kilter since Lucy died. He's used her death as the ultimate excuse to behave badly, especially around Lola and, at Christmas, certainly around Ian. We don't know anything about his movements or whereabouts on the night Lucy died, except what Lola said to Billy about him returning to their flat, very late, and very upset.

Then, there was the incident where Ian told Peter about Lucy's death. He seemed to know from the onset what Ian was about to say.

I have other theories, one of which is probably way off-base, but my main theory now is that Lauren thinks Peter did it, which is why she wants an abortion and a break with Peter. If she thought anyone else in the Beale family did it, she would stay with him, but she told him exactly what she put on the card - that she knew how Lucy died and that she was killed in the house - to gauge Peter's reaction, thinking he would confess to her. Instead, he's come back to the house and thrown the grenade at Ian and Jane, with a view to throwing Jane under the figurative bus, because Jane helped him cover his tracks.
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In less than 12 hours time we will know who killed her. It's been a whole year since we knew she was being killed off. Tonight is the most amount of new footage Eastenders has ever aired in one night. Bring it on.
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Why is Peter stomping around the Vic if he's the killer??
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I have to admire the writing of last night's episode, it was done in a way that keeps Peter, Jane and Ian in suspicion.

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Sharon Marshal is live on set on and off throughout this morning....mainly at 11.15.

She just interviewed Jamie Borthwick and harry Reid and they both think it's Cindy. Phillip Schofield couldn't help but ask "How's Adam"?
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I've got Pat looking down on me today. Against all odds, my seminar has been cancelled - so my EastEnders day of fun goes uninterrupted. Yay!
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Lucy's in her cold cold grave, Deans on the warpath, the wedding is spoiled, Masood forced to babysit, we can't be sure about this Adam and fun fun fun is your only consideration??? Oh I say, hop upon you spy upon you ;-)
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I think they're probably gonna point the suspicion towards Denise tonight
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Well, it has almost got to be something that affects Peter and Lauren's relationship as it was pretty much created for this (it wasn't that interesting to begin with and didn't really come naturally). There has been tons of focus on them and the relationship this year, Lauren has been featured even more than Peter, and now it has been taken as far as possible and they're engaged with a child on the way.

I can't really make myself believe this has all been for nothing. Not to menion if it turned out to be someone like Cindy who we've hardly seen at all this year and no one could care less about. It makes sense it would affect Peter and Lauren the most, and their close families, as they're the ones we've seen the most of this year and have been the most emotional.

Lauren could have worked as well, though I don't think it is now. I think they're going for the maximum shock-factor. Falling from the Garden of Eden could apply to both Ian and Peter but with the circumstances now it looks more like it's Peter.
Edited by Winters, 19 Feb 2015, 13:49.
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175 pages and it's finally here! So pumped for tonight!
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Loving my TimeHop today.

Let's do it all again.
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T-minus 6 hours and 25 minutes.
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Winters
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It's about time to get this straight.

For one thing, I was confused by the Halloween episode. When I first saw it I felt that it was too meaningful not to mean anything. So the first thing you think of is Abi, but that was too obvious, so it makes you discard it all.

But I don't think it was meaningless. I just think it was about Lauren (who was emphasised in a weird sort of way in that episode) rather than Abi. Only not as the killer, but as the one who'll be most affected by who the killer is, aside from Ian who's already a given. They also said it will be more about those affected. So Lauren is more central than Peter because Lauren is staying.

That's what I think it means now. The fact that it happened on Halloween night doesn't matter, that only makes it worse. I think it was definitely an obscure sign of what's to come with symbolic gestures like Abi holding Lauren's head under water.

Well, that's all I can see out of it for now. I don't think you can wring any more out of this storyline.
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Winters
19 Feb 2015, 13:44
Well, it has almost got to be something that affects Peter and Lauren's relationship as it was pretty much created for this (it wasn't that interesting to begin with and didn't really come naturally). There has been tons of focus on them and the relationship this year, Lauren has been featured even more than Peter, and now it has been taken as far as possible and they're engaged with a child on the way.

I can't really make myself believe this has all been for nothing. Not to menion if it turned out to be someone like Cindy who we've hardly seen at all this year and no one could care less about. It makes sense it would affect Peter and Lauren the most, and their close families, as they're the ones we've seen the most of this year and have been the most emotional.

Lauren could have worked as well, though I don't think it is now. I think they're going for the maximum shock-factor. Falling from the Garden of Eden could apply to both Ian and Peter but with the circumstances now it looks more like it's Peter.
I'm just afraid it's going to be Bobby.
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Just noticed after the scene where Dot confesses to Charlie we see a shot of a picture of Ian and Jane with the flatlining sound.
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Jane looks like she is coming back in from the front door in the final scene last night. I wonder if she had been to her car.
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I bloody hope it isn't Bobby, my stepmum said it was him from the beginning and I laughed at her and said "of course it isn't".
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19 Feb 2015, 14:32
Jane looks like she is coming back in from the front door in the final scene last night. I wonder if she had been to her car.
She was letting Masood and Bobby out.
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