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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,749 Views)
TimWil
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I still hope there might be one further twist tonight and that Bobby is covering for Cindy. But they claimed the reveal would be in an anniversary episode so I guess that's not possible.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat as others. Having had the time to take it all in I'm now prepared to see where they plan on taking the story. I agree with what TOSC said elsewhere about this being more a story for Jane and Ian rather than Bobby. It actually makes me think back to DTC's comments from one of his earliest interviews about seeing younger characters through the eyes of their parents, rather than parents through the eyes of the children - seeing how they cope with this revelation will make the next few months very interesting I think.

It is frustrating though that it's yet another whodunit where the culprit wasn't on the "official" suspect list. And history has repeated itself for me too - I was convinced Peggy was Archie's killer back in 2010 and we later found out that she was actually the originally intended culprit, and now after guessing Cindy as Lucy's killer we find out that she was DTC's original choice as the culprit. If the same happens on the 40th anniversary I might just cry.
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WalfordE20
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Prior to the 25th I was terrified Ben was the killer. Last night, as we entered the flashback episode, I just somehow knew it was Bobby.
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20 Feb 2015, 00:29[quote
y. I've slept on it.

I still don't think I like it. Being a child Bobby was very rarely seen so I find it hard to care about him as a character. I think I need to see tonight's episode to make up my mind, because I still need answers.

My main upset is that after all the hype about us finally 'seeing' what happened to Lucy that night, they robbed us of the two most important scenes: Lucy dying and her body being dumped. They promised answers, but I still have many questions.

In terms of continuity with the original episode I think they did very well with the flashback. If I can I'm going to edit them together to watch as a complete piece.

I do have one issue with the timeline. I thought Jake was exonerated because Lee seeing Lucy proved she was still alive after taking Jake home. Last night she saw Billy before even leaving the Square. Also, Denise originally arrived home as Lucy first left the Square, but we didn't see her enter the house until Lucy had argued with Billy.

Anyway. Back to the story. My initial reaction is one of hurt and disappointment, but if Bobby genuinely doesn't know what he's done there's still potential for a good story. It's like someone else said, the story was adult but the reveal was childish.

Reading through some of the positive reactions has helped, but I still need a lot of convincing. At the moment I'm just not feeling excited for tonight's episode.


That was me who said about the reveal being childish. I'm glad people understood what I meant as that was the only way I could put it. I still feel a bit like that. I completely understand your thinking. I think they really shouldn't have done the whodunnit aspect. If we had known from the off, it would have went down a lot better.

I think you will come around to it in time. I hope so anyway. Your reaction mirrors my initial one, but I'm feeling okay about it. It just feels so surreal. I think this isn't a storyline about Bobby, Bobby will not be the focus, really. It's more about Ian and Jane and how they cope with it. Do they shop Bobby in and get justice for Lucy? Do they get him help? Does he need help? Is it a one off? Should they tell him?

All in all, it's very clever. If Bobby wasn't the killer, the aftermath would never last as long as it is going to now. This is the start of a whole new, new in more ways than one, storyline. [edit_reason]Quoted wrong post[/edit_reason]
Edited by Leon, 20 Feb 2015, 19:41.
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TimWil
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Wait...so it was Bobby who wrapped up the music box and put it under the tree? That's highly doubtful. It must have been Cindy who did it and Bobby's covering for her. Is it true that Bobby wasn't even one of the options in the EE set tour competition? If so it must be Cindy.
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20 Feb 2015, 19:31
I'm pretty much in the same boat as others. Having had the time to take it all in I'm now prepared to see where they plan on taking the story. I agree with what TOSC said elsewhere about this being more a story for Jane and Ian rather than Bobby. It actually makes me think back to DTC's comments from one of his earliest interviews about seeing younger characters through the eyes of their parents, rather than parents through the eyes of the children - seeing how they cope with this revelation will make the next few months very interesting I think.

It is frustrating though that it's yet another whodunit where the culprit wasn't on the "official" suspect list. And history has repeated itself for me too - I was convinced Peggy was Archie's killer back in 2010 and we later found out that she was actually the originally intended culprit, and now after guessing Cindy as Lucy's killer we find out that she was DTC's original choice as the culprit. If the same happens on the 40th anniversary I might just cry.
What was the previous who dunit with the suspect not on the list? Stacey was a suspect for Archie and Lauren for who ran over Max.
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Fehnder
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The ee competition had you write the answer. No choices. And Stacey wasn't a suspect in archies killer.
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I don't even mind the whodunnit. I could ever overlook the trailers etc. It's the narrowing down at new year that gets me.

We didn't know who definately didn't do it really did we.
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I wonder if Jane will continue to cover for Bobby and will hand herself in? That way, it gets the reveal out the way, but there is nevertheless some sort of an aftermath with everyone thinking Jane did it.
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Adam said to DTC that he might leave Eastenders and was then told that if he stayed then they would give Adam the mother of all stories. The flashback episode was very pointed in the fact that Ian was still somewhat quite childish in some respects and adult in other ways. Raines comments and Masoods and Peter's. Ian's childish traits have lead him to be very irresponsible and neglectful parent. This was always Lucy's issue with Ian, and she conveyed to Jane in th flashback that yes Ian does try with her but his attempts are always fruitless because he just doesn't understand. The story that follows I think will go on for maybe another year or so about Ian coming to terms with Bobby, trying to not hate him for killing Lucy. And then trying to accept Cindy and Beth as he would have Lucy and Peter. I think Cindy will also step up and mature a lot when she finds out.
So yeah this is probably Adams last important story, sure there will be other things about the Beal empire and of course Kathy, but the key topic with Ian was his children. It'll be resolved after Ian has a million more slip ups before he realizes the point. As DTC said, Lucy's death wasn't entirely in vain because it will lead him to understand that in the event of "sororicide" if accidental, is it can only result in the parent trying to love their killer child more so than less. So I think Ian will get a happy exit eventually but it's only after a long brutal stretch of character development on his side.
Edited by DRAPPLEdreamers1992, 20 Feb 2015, 20:05.
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ian
20 Feb 2015, 19:47
I wonder if Jane will continue to cover for Bobby and will hand herself in? That way, it gets the reveal out the way, but there is nevertheless some sort of an aftermath with everyone thinking Jane did it.
I'm not sure I'm up for that I feel it would be kind of over egging a la Broadchurch.
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20 Feb 2015, 19:44
The ee competition had you write the answer. No choices. And Stacey wasn't a suspect in archies killer.
Surely she was? It wasn't as if they hid her possible involvement.
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20 Feb 2015, 19:31
I'm pretty much in the same boat as others. Having had the time to take it all in I'm now prepared to see where they plan on taking the story. I agree with what TOSC said elsewhere about this being more a story for Jane and Ian rather than Bobby. It actually makes me think back to DTC's comments from one of his earliest interviews about seeing younger characters through the eyes of their parents, rather than parents through the eyes of the children - seeing how they cope with this revelation will make the next few months very interesting I think.

It is frustrating though that it's yet another whodunit where the culprit wasn't on the "official" suspect list. And history has repeated itself for me too - I was convinced Peggy was Archie's killer back in 2010 and we later found out that she was actually the originally intended culprit, and now after guessing Cindy as Lucy's killer we find out that she was DTC's original choice as the culprit. If the same happens on the 40th anniversary I might just cry.
Cindy was the original choice, Jane would've helped as she did currently.
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The weeks out and I can safely say that no other outcome would have come close to that. A huge well done to dct, his team and the Beale family actors for pulling this off.
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20 Feb 2015, 19:31
I'm pretty much in the same boat as others. Having had the time to take it all in I'm now prepared to see where they plan on taking the story. I agree with what TOSC said elsewhere about this being more a story for Jane and Ian rather than Bobby. It actually makes me think back to DTC's comments from one of his earliest interviews about seeing younger characters through the eyes of their parents, rather than parents through the eyes of the children - seeing how they cope with this revelation will make the next few months very interesting I think.

It is frustrating though that it's yet another whodunit where the culprit wasn't on the "official" suspect list. And history has repeated itself for me too - I was convinced Peggy was Archie's killer back in 2010 and we later found out that she was actually the originally intended culprit, and now after guessing Cindy as Lucy's killer we find out that she was DTC's original choice as the culprit. If the same happens on the 40th anniversary I might just cry.
I don't think Cindy would have had a huge impact as Bobby has.
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Blondie08
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No matter what you think about Bobby being the killer, tonight was brilliant acting. Adam was amazing, they all were!
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dave88
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Tonight justified the decision to make Bobby the killer. It was emotional and dramatic without being overly sensationalist.
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Ross
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Amazing.

I'm rather ashamed by how much I initially hated the decision to make Bobby the killer now. :$
Massive thanks to NickM for this wonderful signature! :)

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Ross
20 Feb 2015, 22:28
Amazing.

I'm rather ashamed by how much I initially hated the decision to make Bobby the killer now. :$
I completely understood why at first a eleven year old been responsible for his sisters death looked and sounded barmy but then ultimately there would never be any long-term aftermath if it was anyone else bar Ian killing her then mentally blocking it out but that would taint him forever with Bobby you have years of scope because he's a confused young boy who accidentally caused his sisters death after he lashed out but he didn't realise or understand what he'd done and how Ian and Jane deal with it as parents.
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So can anyone piece all the clues together?

It was Jane's car that made Emma realise?
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