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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,740 Views)
BigApe
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WalfordE20
28 Jul 2015, 10:38
I've got my fingers crossed it's linked to Denise's fight with Lucy, which I bet Chelsea knows about. I realise it's probably a baby though.
Either a baby, a marriage, loss of job, gay or money lenders coming after her.

Or a wild card: She's in touch with Lucas.

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Kim
31 Jul 2015, 19:52
Am I the only one thinking that now/soon would be a good time to bring back Steven Beale? Aside from the obvious that he's a link to Pat in the absence of Liam, it could turn things in the Beale household even more nasty. Now that he's lost his favourite and is covering for the unwanted child that killed her (Peter was right there, it doesn't get much worse than a secret vasectomy) perhaps Ian'd be more open to forgiveness. He could use Jane's instigating the cover up to force her to allow Steven back into the family. While Jane gets a lot of criticism at the moment, Ian can also be vile.

I can't see Kathy the news well that Ian has taken in another of Cindy's illegitimate children. If Steven didn't make a full time return, it would be a nice bit of continuity if Cindy tracked him down for an episode or two, feeling pushed out and wanting to meet someone she's actually related to. It could set the cat amongst the pigeons if Steven knew about Bobby. I'd assume Ian would prefer that he didn't know; he's probably the most likely to blow the secret in the absence of Lauren - hotheaded, hates the puppet master, cast out by Ian and of no relation to the killer.
Did Peter reference the vasectomy before he left then? I thought that storyline had been forgotten by the writers along with Garry Hobbs nearly raising Bobby. In fact I wonder what he would make of all the Lucy murder stuff.

And its interesting that Steven is actually Cindy's biological brother. She'd finally have someone she actually is related to back on the Square.
Not directly, but in the live there was the line "He's a child you didn't even want."

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1 Aug 2015, 05:16
WalfordE20
28 Jul 2015, 10:38
I've got my fingers crossed it's linked to Denise's fight with Lucy, which I bet Chelsea knows about. I realise it's probably a baby though.
Either a baby, a marriage, loss of job, gay or money lenders coming after her.

Or a wild card: She's in touch with Lucas.

I don't think it would be Lucas. Chelsea might speak to him eventually, him being her father, but Libby wouldn't. He killed her father and buried him in a shallow grave under Trina's tree.
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BigApe
1 Aug 2015, 05:10
Kim
31 Jul 2015, 19:52
Am I the only one thinking that now/soon would be a good time to bring back Steven Beale? Aside from the obvious that he's a link to Pat in the absence of Liam, it could turn things in the Beale household even more nasty. Now that he's lost his favourite and is covering for the unwanted child that killed her (Peter was right there, it doesn't get much worse than a secret vasectomy) perhaps Ian'd be more open to forgiveness. He could use Jane's instigating the cover up to force her to allow Steven back into the family. While Jane gets a lot of criticism at the moment, Ian can also be vile.

I can't see Kathy the news well that Ian has taken in another of Cindy's illegitimate children. If Steven didn't make a full time return, it would be a nice bit of continuity if Cindy tracked him down for an episode or two, feeling pushed out and wanting to meet someone she's actually related to. It could set the cat amongst the pigeons if Steven knew about Bobby. I'd assume Ian would prefer that he didn't know; he's probably the most likely to blow the secret in the absence of Lauren - hotheaded, hates the puppet master, cast out by Ian and of no relation to the killer.
Did Peter reference the vasectomy before he left then? I thought that storyline had been forgotten by the writers along with Garry Hobbs nearly raising Bobby. In fact I wonder what he would make of all the Lucy murder stuff.

And its interesting that Steven is actually Cindy's biological brother. She'd finally have someone she actually is related to back on the Square.
Peter wanted to report Bobby immediately he knew the truth, but Ian stopped him. When he initially did this, Peter's response was:-

I don't get this. This is a kid you didn't even want!

So the vasectomy was indirectly referenced. It's true, Ian didn't want Bobby. He wasn't happy in his marriage with Laura and had a secret vasectomy when she kept wittering on about having a child. However, off-screen, he must have slept with her before it was safe to do so, afterward, because the big mystery about Bobby's paternity, we thought, was Garry Hobbes. However, Laura knew as soon as the baby needed a blood transfusion that the child wasn't Garry's.

In fact, on the Christmas Day when Ian threw Laura out, he was certain that the baby wasn't his because of the snip. When Laura begged to stay, Ian, fresh from Steven's defection to New Zealand after the hate mail crisis, told her he was finished raising other people's children. He didn't want Bobby until Pat showed him proof that Bobby was his son.
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Just a reminder of Bobby's beginnings and how devious a prat Ian can be at times.

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Channel 21 here in NY just broadcast the Christmas 2005 episode and I got a chill watching Lucy affectionately guiding little Bobby into the Fowler home (which later, of course, became their home and where Bobby dealt the final blow).
Edited by TimWil, 1 Aug 2015, 20:53.
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Michelle Fowler,Ice Skater
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Pauline was still alive then..
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It was exactly one year before her death, as a matter of fact. I'm not looking forward to her marrying Joe, lying about a terminal disease and alienating Martin and all of her friends, including Dot.
Edited by TimWil, 1 Aug 2015, 20:53.
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I hated what they did with Pauline,no respect that she devoted 20+ years to the show
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1 Aug 2015, 12:40
BigApe
1 Aug 2015, 05:10

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Peter wanted to report Bobby immediately he knew the truth, but Ian stopped him. When he initially did this, Peter's response was:-

I don't get this. This is a kid you didn't even want!

So the vasectomy was indirectly referenced. It's true, Ian didn't want Bobby. He wasn't happy in his marriage with Laura and had a secret vasectomy when she kept wittering on about having a child. However, off-screen, he must have slept with her before it was safe to do so, afterward, because the big mystery about Bobby's paternity, we thought, was Garry Hobbes. However, Laura knew as soon as the baby needed a blood transfusion that the child wasn't Garry's.

In fact, on the Christmas Day when Ian threw Laura out, he was certain that the baby wasn't his because of the snip. When Laura begged to stay, Ian, fresh from Steven's defection to New Zealand after the hate mail crisis, told her he was finished raising other people's children. He didn't want Bobby until Pat showed him proof that Bobby was his son.
It was Den Watts that told Ian after he heard it from Pat.
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Kim
1 Aug 2015, 10:54
BigApe
1 Aug 2015, 05:16

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I don't think it would be Lucas. Chelsea might speak to him eventually, him being her father, but Libby wouldn't. He killed her father and buried him in a shallow grave under Trina's tree.
Could be he wants to repent.

What is Libby's job and area of studies?
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Libby is a research assistant doing a post-graduate degree in English Literature at Oxford.
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1 Aug 2015, 23:56
Libby is a research assistant doing a post-graduate degree in English Literature at Oxford.
I suspect her secret could be she has been sacked or maybe she is emigrating abroad to work. Perhaps to America or Australia.
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Bobby spoiler:
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1 Aug 2015, 23:56
Libby is a research assistant doing a post-graduate degree in English Literature at Oxford.
Oh I thought she might have done something along the lines of criminal psychology hence her using Lucas as a lab experiment if you will.

Although she could be writing a book on serial killers. Possible merchandise opportunity for the BBC.
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BigApe
2 Aug 2015, 01:34
Mrs Peel
1 Aug 2015, 23:56
Libby is a research assistant doing a post-graduate degree in English Literature at Oxford.
Oh I thought she might have done something along the lines of criminal psychology hence her using Lucas as a lab experiment if you will.

Although she could be writing a book on serial killers. Possible merchandise opportunity for the BBC.
It was revealed on Good Friday 2014, when Denise visited Libby that she was a research assistant and she was also getting a post-graduate degree. She was always planning to study English Literature when she went to Oxford.
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Bobby attacking Max's car seems to me like misplaced guilt. He cannot confront what he did correctly so is shifting it onto Max.

He is dangerous and Jane is clearly quite severely stupid if she thinks coddling him, pandering to his every whim and letting him continue on this path is going to suddenly give him a happy childhood and help him turn into a well adjusted adult.

He's on his way to turning into a nightmare hybrid of Nick Cotton (who committed his various crimes to "feel something") and Dean Wicks (who is a delusional fantasist with rage and control issues). A monster is being created here and he needs psychological help as a matter of urgency.

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I think Bobby is going to kill Jane, keep her body in a cellar and dress up like Jane to continue his killings.

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Well this has to happen now! :D
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I want him to at least be around for whenever Janine returns and he can hold her hostage due to hearing someone talk about how vile she was to his mother.
Edited by TimWil, 4 Aug 2015, 03:17.
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