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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,906 Views)
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Mrs Peel
21 May 2014, 17:10
Ender89
21 May 2014, 13:16
Sharon on the other hand is more of a built and larger woman which I think would be harder to take down by another woman without much of a altercation.
Don't underestimate adrenalin. Stacey was lightly built, yet she managed to lift the Queen Vic bust and brain Archie with it.

If Sharon's attacked from behind, which is implied, not only will she not see her assailant, she'll have no defence. A person's skull is very fragile, veinous and only covered by a thin layer of skin. Easy enough to crack if you're hit with the right object.

Tiff could walk up behind Sharon, were she sitting down, wielding a baseball bat and knock her dead. Size doesn't matter.
That's a storyline I wouldn't mind seeing.
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Mrs Peel
21 May 2014, 17:10
Ender89
21 May 2014, 13:16
Sharon on the other hand is more of a built and larger woman which I think would be harder to take down by another woman without much of a altercation.
Don't underestimate adrenalin. Stacey was lightly built, yet she managed to lift the Queen Vic bust and brain Archie with it.

If Sharon's attacked from behind, which is implied, not only will she not see her assailant, she'll have no defence. A person's skull is very fragile, veinous and only covered by a thin layer of skin. Easy enough to crack if you're hit with the right object.

Tiff could walk up behind Sharon, were she sitting down, wielding a baseball bat and knock her dead. Size doesn't matter.
True, however in the article it did say she was mugged and there was physical aggression involved between the two but then perhaps she gets overwhelmed by the sheer power of the other person? Or did I read it wrong? Which is why I said it could be a man or another woman who has equal to or if not more strength than Sharon. Also doesn't adrenaline work both ways? Sharon would have had two options there, either to flight or fight and in my view she seems to be a person to pick the latter. Remember the swing punch she gave to Chrissie? However, unfortunately it just doesn't go her way and ends up in hospital. On the other hand if she is battered from behind then yes even Tiffany or even Kamil could have caused considerable damage.


Edited by Mr Carter, 21 May 2014, 17:55.
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I can't believe no one on screen has once thought 'Steven' yet?
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Mrs Peel
21 May 2014, 17:10
Ender89
21 May 2014, 13:16
Sharon on the other hand is more of a built and larger woman which I think would be harder to take down by another woman without much of a altercation.
Don't underestimate adrenalin. Stacey was lightly built, yet she managed to lift the Queen Vic bust and brain Archie with it.
Stacey never picked up the Queen Vic bust, she pushed it off the bar!
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Looking at the preview for Monday, I'd say Shabnam didn't send the "Rot in Hell" note :)
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MrJames
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No, I'm going with Masood now. In which case, why?
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strange and not Masood at all, I was gonna say Alex maybe?? again it not interesting if it him.
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My Fave characters in order- Jane,Phil,Linda,Max,Mick,Lauren,Peter,Lola,Jay,Nancy,Dexter,Abi,Ronnie,Masood,Denise,Tamwar.
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The more time goes on, the more I lean towards Ronnie. They tried to get a wide variety of characters in Lucy's death episode, but Ronnie wasn't included just for the sake of it, I think she is heavily involved. She has spent much of this year off-screen, so she's in the perfect situation for things to be happening that we don't know about. The typical Ronnie-double-gasp-reaction can easily happen off-screen.

Lee, Cindy and Jane - other characters spending lengthy amounts of time off-screen. Apart from Jane, I don't think that is just by coincidence.

Shabnam's behaviour was interesting tonight, also. And Aleks. I've definitely got my eye on Aleks.
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27 May 2014, 00:36
The more time goes on, the more I lean towards Ronnie. They tried to get a wide variety of characters in Lucy's death episode, but Ronnie wasn't included just for the sake of it, I think she is heavily involved. She has spent much of this year off-screen, so she's in the perfect situation for things to be happening that we don't know about. The typical Ronnie-double-gasp-reaction can easily happen off-screen.

Lee, Cindy and Jane - other characters spending lengthy amounts of time off-screen. Apart from Jane, I don't think that is just by coincidence.

Shabnam's behaviour was interesting tonight, also. And Aleks. I've definitely got my eye on Aleks.
Aleks is a creepy creature, he's always made my skin crawl.
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Well now we know that it was Whitney that sent the note and that Lucy was cyberbullying her. I could see that, especially with the comments she made about her dad and Tony.
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21 May 2014, 13:31
If we are indeed looking at a potential serial killer maybe we should have another read of that 'leak'... I hope that was just fanfiction though.

Sharon and Phil start to doubt Jake's guilt in the coming weeks so until suggested otherwise I think this is connected.

This is really shaping up to be so much more than the usual whodunnit. Nothing's clear cut and there are so many unanswered questions running underneath the main mystery of Lucy's killer:

Who attacks Sharon?
Who wrote the funeral card?
Why did Whitney delete her messages to Lucy?
Where was Ian that night?
Who gave Lucy the drugs?
What was used to kill Lucy?
Does the killer know they're responsible?
Who dumped the body?

I'm loving every minute.
These are all my guesses and not spoilers although one has been revealed.

Who attacks Sharon?

Ronnie. She doesn't want Sharon finding something out. She has been conspicuous by her absence too since Lucy's death. When something happens with her, it'll be big.

Who wrote the funeral card?

As we now know, Whitney, but I honestly don't think Whitney had anything to do with Lucy's death nor do I think she knows anything, however, it does explain why she reacted so badly to Lucy and Lee getting together. It would have brought out all the insecurities Lucy has brought up.

Whitney never liked Lucy but never wanted her dead either. I understand why they didn't like each other but Lucy's behaviour towards Whitney was reprehensible, disgusting and might I say, learned by a social snob like Ian. Lucy could be a right shit sometimes.

This does not mean she deserved what happened to her, that her death was not a tragedy, that she couldn't have changed or whoever killed her shouldn't be punished. But she really was.

Why did Whitney delete her messages to Lucy?

I would imagine that Lucy's death shook her up and to be fair, Whitney has had the maturity to realize that others will have better memories of Lucy than she does and she doesn't want to upset them with a character assassination of a woman who has just died.

Where was Ian that night?

Probably pursuing a bunk-up with Jane. He doesn't love and barely likes Denise and only has her around because Jane won't have him. My guess is that he was trying to find Jane.

Who gave Lucy the drugs?

This will have to be someone we know for it to have any impact. Possibilities are Aleks, Ronnie, "Charlie" and Jake. It's highly unlikely to be Jake, I now simply think he is just a somewhat pathetic alcoholic who has lost everything and is gaining his entire self-worth through Lauren and a seedy affair he had. Although I didn't believe it at first, I am starting to believe that whatever Charlie and Les have done with the body in the coffin and drugs are connected as well as men with tattoos on their necks and prisoners' keys. That theory makes more and more sense as I really don't think the likes of Whitney, Abi etc are capable of moving Lucy's body and covering up like that while watching her family go through hell.


What was used to kill Lucy?


Blunt object. I imagine this was something like Ben and Heather. The killer lashed out through adrenalin during a furious argument and maybe didn't intend to kill Lucy but lashed out with lethal force.

Does the killer know they're responsible?

I'm going to stick my neck out - yes, but they don't know how Lucy's body got the Common.

Who dumped the body?

Jake. He did not kill Lucy but the killer tried to set him up by leaving the body with a drunk Jake in the flat. He doesn't remember what happened, knew he was in a world of trouble so moved her himself to cover any suspicion.

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soetmo
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Ronnie's only not been around because she's on a filming break as she is doing something else. Same as Stacey and Kat.
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MrJames
27 May 2014, 00:36
The more time goes on, the more I lean towards Ronnie. They tried to get a wide variety of characters in Lucy's death episode, but Ronnie wasn't included just for the sake of it, I think she is heavily involved. She has spent much of this year off-screen, so she's in the perfect situation for things to be happening that we don't know about. The typical Ronnie-double-gasp-reaction can easily happen off-screen.

Lee, Cindy and Jane - other characters spending lengthy amounts of time off-screen. Apart from Jane, I don't think that is just by coincidence.

Shabnam's behaviour was interesting tonight, also. And Aleks. I've definitely got my eye on Aleks.
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27 May 2014, 09:09
Ronnie's only not been around because she's on a filming break as she is doing something else. Same as Stacey and Kat.
This is true, however Kat and Ronnie are still supposedly in the Square. Kat is accounted for as we get the odd mention from Bianca that she's got the stall today etc, and at around 6 months pregnant it's understandable that she'll be starting to take things a bit easier. Ronnie on the other hand hasn't even been mentioned, which makes me wonder if they're deliberately keeping her under the radar for some reason.
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27 May 2014, 05:17
MrJames
27 May 2014, 00:36
The more time goes on, the more I lean towards Ronnie. They tried to get a wide variety of characters in Lucy's death episode, but Ronnie wasn't included just for the sake of it, I think she is heavily involved. She has spent much of this year off-screen, so she's in the perfect situation for things to be happening that we don't know about. The typical Ronnie-double-gasp-reaction can easily happen off-screen.

Lee, Cindy and Jane - other characters spending lengthy amounts of time off-screen. Apart from Jane, I don't think that is just by coincidence.

Shabnam's behaviour was interesting tonight, also. And Aleks. I've definitely got my eye on Aleks.
Aleks is a creepy creature, he's always made my skin crawl.
I've got a feeling suspicion will fall on Alexs and the actor said he leads a double life but, like Jake, I can see him set up more than being the killer. There was a scene in the minute mart where he was counting more money than we'd expect a market inspector to have. . .

Since the storyline started, and reading Mrs Peel's theory, I've been re-reading Agatha Christie and also watched Broadchurch. I thought I was on to something as the first AC novel has a police officer called Summerhay! However, the similar name doesn't seem to be significant (very minor character).

I lean towards RM too because she's a character DTC understands (created?) and so would be one he'd have plans for. The actor is well known and an established character which gives it more impact and in the story she's already killed (another killer running around stretches credibility).

I do think it's murder - again for the story impact. An accidental death does open up possibilities of it being emotional and sad in a way that DTC hinted at. I've found a few of Jane's scenes could be interpreted in different ways but doesn't quite add up for me and RM is who I keep going back to.

The conspiracy theory about Charlie's involvement is ingenious but I'm not sure if he really is a fellow psycho. Generally, I agree he's involved but seemed easily pushed about by Les with the blackmail and earlier on didn't seem entirely comfortable with the whole body in the coffin. With the Shepherd's Pie, was he manipulating Dot or was he genuinely shocked and meant it when he said no-one will hurt her? I'm glad to still be wondering if he's a psycho or a man caught up in someone else's machinations.

Over the weekend, Declan Bennett posted a funny picture of a tattoo on his neck!
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The only reason Ronnie has not featured is because Sam had a previous contract she had to honour.

Rita Simons said at the soap awards there was a huge Mitchell storyline coming up in the summer. Sam should be back full time around September. So I think Rita may have been referring to the Sharon stuff.

I also think the new contract Sam signed doesn't actually start until she is back full time. So that will take her until at least summer 2015. You can't be on Sky and BBC contracts at the same time.

Unless of course the story Sam had signed a one year contract wasn't true in the first place. Which tbh seems likely given she is now currently working for Sky One. [edit_reason]added[/edit_reason]
Edited by Walford East, 27 May 2014, 13:34.
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I think Ian's secret is much more complex than a bunk up with Jane. Their scenes after Lucy's death seemed very real and raw, and it wouldn't be much of a secret as it has already happened on screen. He also makes a suspicious phone call next week. I think it's something a little bit more.

Flashbacks. Please let's have a flashback episode retracing all of Lucy's final steps. That could perhaps be what Jamie Lomas was referring to.
Edited by MrJames, 27 May 2014, 15:15.
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Regarding Aleks, remember that when Denise discovered Lucy had been murdered he was standing with her in the Minute Mart. He does seem to have an alibi for Good Friday though.
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I just don't get why it would be Ronnie. There's never been any connection. Obviously stuff could come out from now until the reveal, but I'd be surprised.
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27 May 2014, 15:51
Regarding Aleks, remember that when Denise discovered Lucy had been murdered he was standing with her in the Minute Mart. He does seem to have an alibi for Good Friday though.
And in the cafe when Fatboy, Tamwar, Jay and Dexter were discussing Lucy's looks.
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