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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,893 Views)
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29 Jul 2014, 22:17
Josh
29 Jul 2014, 07:07
Denise has always, and still is, my number one suspect. I'd preference it being somewhat of an accident after a confrontation on Denise's way home from Oxford. Post-reveal I'd personally like to see Denise serve some time in prison but not lose her from the show.
Denise returned from Oxford and went straight to bed. Lucy was still in Bridge Street then, before she got the message to go to Walford Common Flats. Of course it's possible that Denise got up again, but unlikely.
Oh right, thanks for correcting me on that one! She would have had to go back out then, of which I don't have a complete answer for, but I still believe Denise to be the cause of Lucy's death.
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Professor Plum
30 Jul 2014, 03:59
Josh
29 Jul 2014, 07:07
Where I'm at now is obviously Stacey is eliminated for definite, and I think Jake also is too. The likes of Dot, Mo, Cora and Patrick are eliminated too for obvious reasons.
It's clear Ronnie isn't involved, and I think after some suspicion we can eliminate Whitney and Billy too. Nick and Ben's returns are there to add possibilities but I would say Ben definitely has nothing to do with it. Nick might have links to Lucy's drug use if they go down the Charlie and Carl drug/dealing use path.

Denise has always, and still is, my number one suspect. I'd preference it being somewhat of an accident after a confrontation on Denise's way home from Oxford. Post-reveal I'd personally like to see Denise serve some time in prison but not lose her from the show.
Other possibilities I guess are Peter, Jane, Abi, Lola, Dean and Cindy.
I thought DTC said some time back it wasn't Stacey (about the time of her return), but I agree with the rest of your first line

forgive my next question, as I am about 3 weeks behind, but has Ronnie actually been cleared? She is still very much in my radar.
I also find it a bit odd that Phil hasn't formed a manhunt to track Jay down.
Yeah, I said Stacey is eliminated :)

As for Ronnie, I personally just think it would be ludicrous for her to be blamed for Lucy's death. I think it would result in it all becoming a bit sensationalist which 'Who Killed Lucy?' is most definitely not...so far anyway.
I kind of get that the idea behind Ronnie would be the whole young blonde girl thing linking to Danielle as we saw with Lola, but I think maybe it's just that put with the fact that Ronnie is descending into villain territory and it doesn't fit with me. Besides, I think Ronnie has her own separate story brewing with her now being pregnant (at the same time as Kat again...).
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Forgot about her being pregnant same time as Kat, probably as neither have been on screen that much.
Once again though, both women should be high risk, given their age and history. I would have liked to have seen a bit more done on this.

there is so much more going on in the background, it is easy to over look details and miss stuff. I guess that's because we have had single story stuff with little small details for so long, we have forgotten to watch the whole programme properly.
Edited by Professor Plum, 30 Jul 2014, 22:15.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p023tlly

Getting good now init?
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WalfordE20
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Ian's behaviour is disgusting at the moment. It's like he cares more about protecting his own sordid secret than finding his daughter's murderer.
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Not being funny, but sometimes when the police want the family to do a televised appeal, their suspicions lie on the person who actually - er - does the appeal. There have been countless times a family member has made a tearful appeal for information, only to be arrested for the crime, itself, subsequently.

Maybe they suspect Ian. Or Peter.
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I'm still thinking its Lee and he has no idea what he has done.

Little things keep being planted about him.

Nancy knowing he wasn't at the party all night

Billy saying Lee was following Lucy on the night she died...

The biggest thing for me was Linda proclaiming nothing will ever rip her family apart when word of Lucy's death spread through Walford.

And if the blood in the flat really did come directly from Lucy after her death then Lee again had access.

But perhaps even bigger than that is Whitney. This girl hated Lucy and has made no secret of it in death. That is why I think it will be her who discovers Lee was the killer and ultimately the girl who hated Lucy is the girl who brings her killer to justice.

My guess is that Lee will make a confession, either by slipping into another PTSD episode or by talking in his sleep. I think he killed her but can't remember doing it.

EastEnders made a point of showing Lee suffering PTSD one week prior to Lucy's death and haven't touch on it since... you have to question why.

Oh I also forgot to add. Ian and Mick's friendship out of no where. I think all the obvious signs are right in front of us. This is plausible and is in no way sensational. Just like DTC said it would be.
Edited by Walford East, 1 Aug 2014, 11:55.
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1 Aug 2014, 11:43
I'm still thinking its Lee and he has no idea what he has done.

Little things keep being planted about him.

Nancy knowing he wasn't at the party all night

Billy saying Lee was following Lucy on the night she died...

The biggest thing for me was Linda proclaiming nothing will ever rip her family apart when word of Lucy's death spread through Walford.

And if the blood in the flat really did come directly from Lucy after her death then Lee again had access.

But perhaps even bigger than that is Whitney. This girl hated Lucy and has made no secret of it in death. That is why I think it will be her who discovers Lee was the killer and ultimately the girl who hated Lucy is the girl who brings her killer to justice.

My guess is that Lee will make a confession, either by slipping into another PTSD episode or by talking in his sleep. I think he killed her but can't remember doing it.

EastEnders made a point of showing Lee suffering PTSD one week prior to Lucy's death and haven't touch on it since... you have to question why.

Oh I also forgot to add. Ian and Mick's friendship out of no where. I think all the obvious signs are right in front of us. This is plausible and is in no way sensational. Just like DTC said it would be.
That sounds very plausible indeed.
What hit me from the start is that Lee's rather forced romance with Whitney must serve a purpose in the 'who killed Lucy storyline'.
Edited by Desdemona, 1 Aug 2014, 12:17.
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There's 3 or 4 really good theories in this thread. However I don't think it will be Denise, my money's on Lee or Ben.
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a588098/eastenders-appeal-emmerdale-aaron-corrie-fraud-hollyoaks-discovery.html

I'm really excited to see the press appeal next week. Has a soap ever done anything like this before?
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I cant access the clip (outside Britian), who is doing the appeal, Ian or Peter?
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Good gosh, look at that!

Hollyoaks have done a few press appeals, but they always feel a bit contrived and fake. This looks brilliant.
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3 Aug 2014, 00:22
I cant access the clip (outside Britian), who is doing the appeal, Ian or Peter?
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1 Aug 2014, 10:31
Not being funny, but sometimes when the police want the family to do a televised appeal, their suspicions lie on the person who actually - er - does the appeal. There have been countless times a family member has made a tearful appeal for information, only to be arrested for the crime, itself, subsequently.

Maybe they suspect Ian. Or Peter.
Nail on the head by the looks of today's spoilers. Looking forward to how this plays out. Also happy that Phil is still supporting Ian.
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1 Aug 2014, 10:31
Not being funny, but sometimes when the police want the family to do a televised appeal, their suspicions lie on the person who actually - er - does the appeal. There have been countless times a family member has made a tearful appeal for information, only to be arrested for the crime, itself, subsequently.

Maybe they suspect Ian. Or Peter.
Keeble does set it up to see what she can get out of Ian. Apparently Phil works this out, and then demands to know what Ian is hiding.
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For all the shadiness of Ian's behaviour has he been taken in by the police? He's due some heat for all his disgusting behaviour and this could be the start of it.

Love the theories on Lee above, he has been my choice from the start.

Building up good relations between the Beales and Carters makes sense for a dramatic fall out. I was also thinking of Linda's friendship with Sharon, a long term friend to the Beales and how that will be tested should Lee be revealed as the killer. I also wonder if the scene of Tina helping Cindy to the hospital will be for nothing. With her and Tosh wanting a baby and the father of Cindy's fleeing Walford will there be an exchange of some kind? Will Cindy return and have had a change of heart about being a mother so young? How will that go when Cindy discovers her child will be raised in a family that contains her sisters murderer?
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Lee, Whitney, Ronnie, Billy, Ian, Ian, Peter, Lauren, Abi, Max, Mick, Cindy and even Charlie, Nick, Aleks, Pam and Les, Denise....the door hasn't closed on any of them.

I wonder when they will start ruling more out? There's only 6 months left...
Edited by soetmo, 3 Aug 2014, 14:39.
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Every time I hit the 'upsetting' stumbling block, I always seem to find a reason why it would be upsetting, so DTC's statement was actually irrelevant in that sense. Any of her family killing her would be the most 'upsetting' though.
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3 Aug 2014, 15:43
Every time I hit the 'upsetting' stumbling block, I always seem to find a reason why it would be upsetting, so DTC's statement was actually irrelevant in that sense. Any of her family killing her would be the most 'upsetting' though.
I would associate 'upsetting' with a tragic (unintended) scenario that implicates Lucy's nearest and dearest. In that case we will undoubtedly be presented with mitigating circumstances. Peter and Ian are hardly cold blooded murderers.
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