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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,928 Views)
Bec
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Ronnie is absent from all of the marketing promotion for this story too. I think we can rule her out of this mystery.
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Danny came back to do her in
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20 Apr 2014, 20:10
Danny came back to do her in
As I've said before, Danny would certainly be a suspect in the eyes of the police. I hope they've managed to get Gary Lucy back even for a few scenes, purely to add to the realism of the story.
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The theory of secondary impact syndrome, no. Because as already stated, its been done heaps of times before
Peter? We have already had one brother kill his sibling (Jake and Danny Moon), but that said, Ben Hardy has said he doesnt want to stay forever.

I think how the body was found is interesting. No rape, indicates probably more a woman. Clothes and hair pretty much intact = no struggle. Also, if she was left looking dignified, eg, body left so no private parts are showing, hair tidy, sort of thing, it would indicate it was someone who cared about her.

I dont think anyone could get Abi mixed up with Lucy, as someone has suggested. (The long blonde hair and similar coat). Their body shapes are just not close enough. One is short and dumpy, the other tall and slender.

I dont think it is Lauren either. She is DTCs fav. He is not going to risk losing her. Weather murder or manslaughter, someone will end up in jail for a few years, or as Mrs Peel says, in a box.

Was she hit from behind? but how was she murdered? Was she shot? strangled? hit? (sorry, I havent seen it yet).

Also, look at the trailer. Did Stacey appear in Archies trailer? We are usually told that if they feature heavily in the trailer, they are not the culprit.

but then, how far can we trust DTC? He said he would put Sharon back to her rightful place, and that hasnt happened.

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Revenge Is A Dish Best Served Cold
Bec
20 Apr 2014, 20:01
Ronnie is absent from all of the marketing promotion for this story too. I think we can rule her out of this mystery.
Yeah Sam is filming Mount Pleasant up in Manchester until June. So if she is taking a break from EE in the meantime she is going to be absent from a lot of stuff and possibly not a regular character again until September (on screen).

Edited by Walford East, 20 Apr 2014, 22:18.
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I wouldn't rule Ronnie out or Nick (as I think he is alive). Nick because of the connection to drugs and Ronnie because she is a psychopath who has already killed. Easier to have less killers than more storyline wise.
Only 2 regulars I would rule out is Denise because of the timeline and Stacey who is in prison.
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Ronnie doesn't appear again for months though. For her to not be involved in any of the marketing campaign or aftermath would suggest she's not a part of this story.
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Yeah I don't even see how its plausible for it to have been Ronnie. After she killed Carl she struggled with what she had done and broke when she saw Nora. So to believe she would stay calm and relaxed in front of Ian mourning his daughter doesn't ring true not after she was comforting Dot after Nick's death. Then there is Ronnie thinking she killed Lola. She was mortified by what happened. So I don't care if she is a ''psychopath'' I'm going off how she has behaved on screen under similar circumstances.
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20 Apr 2014, 22:35
Yeah I don't even see how its plausible for it to have been Ronnie. After she killed Carl she struggled with what she had done and broke when she saw Nora. So to believe she would stay calm and relaxed in front of Ian mourning his daughter doesn't ring true not after she was comforting Dot after Nick's death. Then there is Ronnie thinking she killed Lola. She was mortified by what happened. So I don't care if she is a ''psychopath'' I'm going off how she has behaved on screen under similar circumstances.
Sorry, I disagree. Yes, she was a little distraught with Nora, seeing Noras pain. But she was proud of the fact that she killed Carl. He deserved to die. He was trying to take her beloved Roxy away.
She told Nora she did it, because she didnt like to see Nora that upset. But that whole thing was odd.

Why didnt Nora go to the police? If I couldnt find my child and someone had told me they had killed him, I would not just be walking away.
Why hasnt there been more of an investigation into his death?

I think the two are somehow linked.
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The killer is Kat Moon.

Kat has been dealing to Lucy, Lucy attempts to blackmail her into Kat giving her stash so she can run away, and Kat doesn't want to lose Tommy and wants a good life for the twins.


If not, Lucy is a dealer and Sharon reveals around Xmas time that she was a 'client' of Lucy's. Who is the customer Lucy meets? Actually it's Ronnie via Roxy's phone, with Charlie as alibi.


The other option is Nick Cotton.
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20 Apr 2014, 23:07
The killer is Kat Moon.

Kat has been dealing to Lucy, Lucy attempts to blackmail her into Kat giving her stash so she can run away, and Kat doesn't want to lose Tommy and wants a good life for the twins.


If not, Lucy is a dealer and Sharon reveals around Xmas time that she was a 'client' of Lucy's. Who is the customer Lucy meets? Actually it's Ronnie via Roxy's phone, with Charlie as alibi.


The other option is Nick Cotton.
I highly doubt whilst she's awaiting sentencing for her perjury, Kat would decide to pass the time by drug dealing. :P
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Yeah, if Ronnie knew that she had killed a young, blonde 20 year old girl - we would see her have a full on break down I think.

Although it does make you think if the Lola stuff last week was actually just a clever bit of foreshadowing?
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Just a thought I had. Anyone reckon Danny maybe squatting again in those flats?

One way of implicating him as I'm sure he's gonna crop up again - I don't think, and hope, it's not him. But it does seem like he hasn't fully left yet.
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I just had a thought too, do we think the real reason Lucy was doing cocaine is because she was depressed about the abortion she did a few years back? Maybe she wanted to block out that pain. Thus leading her to be involved with various dodgy people who then took advantage and killed her? She kept on saying how she was "a mess" - What kind of mess? How deep was it? Who was involved? So many questions.
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It'd be such a cop out if it was Ronnie. I wouldn't be shocked at all. We know Ronnie has no remorse and no qualms about murder in general, aside from the "young blonde girl" bit, but it'd be the biggest anti-climax in the world if it was the most likely person in the show to commit murder.
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21 Apr 2014, 00:02
Yeah, if Ronnie knew that she had killed a young, blonde 20 year old girl - we would see her have a full on break down I think.

Although it does make you think if the Lola stuff last week was actually just a clever bit of foreshadowing?
Not necessarily just because she sees Lola has some replacement Danielle doesn't mean she seems Lucy the same way. Psychopaths don't feel emotions like we do. And they are very good at hiding them too, they often act from what they learn from watching others rather than how they actually are. Its possible she feels nothing or little with someone like her you never know. I am not ruling her out just because she wasn't on the trailer.
But then again maybe its too obvious. But its most realistic at this point it will be killer square. 3 killers all living on 1 square. Whatever you say about London that is a bit extreme, 3 that close together all living feets away from each other. If it someone close to her even if its an accident if they say nothing it will give the character some self life. Say Peter did it by accident he wouldn't put everyone through hell not letting them know the truth. In fact none from that trailer can I reasonably see doing that there has to be some twist.
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21 Apr 2014, 00:11
Anyone reckon Danny maybe squatting again in those flats?

I bet there a re quite a few viewers who would like to see Danny squatting but not necessarily in those flats! :O
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A strong outsider for me would be Johnny. Maybe he was dealing Lucy coke (or vice-versa to take his mind and feelings from the hurtfulness Linda causes him). Johnny can't bare the thought of his family finding out (rejection/disdain), with alarm bells ringing after Ian confronts Lee.

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20 Apr 2014, 22:23
I wouldn't rule Ronnie out or Nick (as I think he is alive). Nick because of the connection to drugs and Ronnie because she is a psychopath who has already killed. Easier to have less killers than more storyline wise.
Only 2 regulars I would rule out is Denise because of the timeline and Stacey who is in prison.
I think we can rule out Phil as well.

I don't think it was Denise but do we actually know what the timeline was between the shot of Denise on the bed and Lucy dead in the woods? It could have been the same time, minutes or hours so it probably doesn't strictly rule Denise out.

What does rule Denise out is a total lack of motive. She wouldn't take it out on Lucy that she didn't want to marry Ian. She might have wanted to leave him but that she would kill or seriously harm one of his children to make a point would be ridiculous to me.

Be interesting to see when those voicemails were sent too. It seemed pretty clear that Lee was at Roxy's party when he sent his but did he send it before or after Lucy's death? The police will try to establish time of death in relation to her phone messages as well finding out if she died on Walford Common and if not, how she got there? Was she moved or did she make it there before collapsing? If she went with someone to Walford Common, who was it? It would have to be someone she trusted. There didn't seem to be any signs of a struggle, her hair, her clothes and the surrounding area were neat.

So many interesting questions here. I would say it's the most interesting mystery storyline they have done. Let's hope they don't choke.



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21 Apr 2014, 00:11
Just a thought I had. Anyone reckon Danny maybe squatting again in those flats?

One way of implicating him as I'm sure he's gonna crop up again - I don't think, and hope, it's not him. But it does seem like he hasn't fully left yet.
Yeah, that'd be a good way of having him appear again for a little while.
I think we should, no, need to see Danny again at some point during the investigation. I'm not up for a full on return, just a brief appearance for realism and to tie up loose ends in his and Lucy's story.
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