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| Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,872 Views) | |
| soetmo | 18 Oct 2014, 21:54 Post #1181 |
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I get that part NMM, but still we don't know if the reveal definitely won't lead to a character departing.... |
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| Mrs Peel | 18 Oct 2014, 22:39 Post #1182 |
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It shouldn't make any difference if the killing were accidental or not. Whoever killed Lucy has hidden the fact that he or she killed her, when - if it were accidental and if they'd admitted what happened initially, they may have been dealt with more leniently. The number of people who've illegally killed other people walking around the Square now is becoming a parody. Yes, I know Ben and Stacey have paid their debt by imprisonment, but it's unreal to say that whoever killed Lucy Beale won't leave the series, even for a prison break. One person who's killed walking around fancy-free is one thing; another being let off for a killing turns the show into a parody. |
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| MrJames | 18 Oct 2014, 23:16 Post #1183 |
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Unlessssss the killer still doesn't know they did it? I don't think the killer will leave straight away with the reveal being live but I do think they will probably leave eventually. |
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| Ross | 18 Oct 2014, 23:29 Post #1184 |
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My money is on Peter, Lola or Denise. Once this story has concluded, it's going to be very weird. It's been one of the main things occupying my brain these past 6 months. |
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| Dave Sullivan | 18 Oct 2014, 23:32 Post #1185 |
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I think only the audience will learn who killed Lucy not the characters and I suspect that some of the characters may not discover this for a long time. |
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| Mrs Peel | 18 Oct 2014, 23:48 Post #1186 |
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Then we're on a hiding to nothing similar to what was suffered in the aftermath of the 25th. That aftermath was abysmal. The viewers and a minimum of characters knew Stacey had killed Archie, and then we had to wait out the year before a totally unbelieveable storyline erupted, sending her away from the Square, fleeing a stabbing accusation and seemingly with the blessing of the daughter of her victim. Lucy Beale was an important legacy character. Treadwell-Collins knows that and is also cognizant of the mistakes made in the way they disclosed Archie's killer. I think we, and the characters on the show, are meant to discover who killed Lucy on the Anniversary, and the character will leave. Apart from Timothy West and Jacqueline Jossa (who's taking maternity leave), have we had any information about any actor leaving at the beginning of the year? Mostly, we have announcements of departures at the beginning of the year and also mid- to late-summer. The announcements made at the beginning of the year usually depart around autumn time (Patsy Palmer, Scott Maslen). Announcements made after that usually depart Christmas/New Year/ or in this instance, the 30th anniversary. I would imagine that there are a couple of people leaving early in the New Year, and DTC knows this. Three actors who have been interviewed about Lucy's death have all intimated that the character would be leaving. Still high on my list are Ronnie and Charlie, Peter or Lee Carter. |
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| Mr Branning | 19 Oct 2014, 04:26 Post #1187 |
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I can't believe the killer doesn't know they did it, or at least played some role in her death. Everyone on the Square knows where/when she died and her cause of injury so anyone who had the slightest altercation with her on Good Friday will surely know that that could have contributed to her death. If she had more than one alteraction, we could be heading to a situation where one character confesses, thinking they killed her, but it was someone else who dealt the final blow. |
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| MuteBanana | 19 Oct 2014, 05:59 Post #1188 |
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Still sticking with Lee Carter. But that word 'emotional' makes me think it could be a Branning or a Bele. |
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| eastend90 | 19 Oct 2014, 12:15 Post #1189 |
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And the case in Point-Stacey didn't leave straight away after being revealed as Archie's killer but did leave the following Christmas (2010). |
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| Cupcake | 19 Oct 2014, 17:30 Post #1190 |
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Still think it's Lee and the reason he doesn't know he killed her was that he was in a severe PTSD episode. |
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| WalfordE20 | 19 Oct 2014, 17:47 Post #1191 |
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I don't think I could buy into that. Lee's PTSD has been handled really poorly, having caused him to break down shortly before Lucy's death and have it never spoken of again. You could argue that would make the reveal more shocking, but I don't think it's been handled very well. That and Danny-Boy is one of the show's weaker actors. |
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| Dave Sullivan | 19 Oct 2014, 18:18 Post #1192 |
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It won't be Lee as it's too obvious and an fluke I can't help leaning towards Peter as they wouldn't have Ian being responsible for his daughters death but Peter makes perfect sense to me. |
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| McFudd | 19 Oct 2014, 18:38 Post #1193 |
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I bet it is one of the Beales - will be keeping a close eye on Jane. |
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| Mrs Peel | 19 Oct 2014, 20:48 Post #1194 |
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To me, that killed the entire 25th anniversary episode. And I actually think they botched her leaving at a later date that way. They could have had her confess, be sentenced, and she'd be out about now, rather than the gumpf they had to go through with the appeal etc. Besides, Lucy Beale is a far more important character than Archie Mitchell was, and as much as DTC has repeated some of his greatest hits, I don't think he'd repeat the 25th anniversary episode to the extent that we have someone confessing to Lucy's murder or being found out for the audience's sake and then stringing out the departure until the end of the year, once again. It's ambitious enough that this storyline started almost a year before it's climax and reveal, but I have to say the reason it's continuing isn't because people are fascinated with the investigations, which seem now to be brought up from time to time, almost as fillers, but because the rest of the storylines have been so interesting - the Mitchell marriage, the Carters and their various troubles, even Ronnie and Charlie. The other storylines holding the viewers' interests are what's keeping this storyline moving, much the same way various other strong storylines kept the interest up in Saskiagate in 1999. |
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| Dan | 20 Oct 2014, 10:22 Post #1195 |
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That's true and also, there have been many interesting subplots developing from the Lucy murder like Ben coming into possession of her things, Ian frequenting prostitutes and tying it into the Patrick story and Cameron stalking Lauren and Peter. There is so much going on, I sometimes forget about Lucy even when the storyline has developed from her murder until she is sharply brought back into focus again. DTC was against Stacey becoming the murderer and I think he would be keen to avoid painting a character whom he has no plans to lose into a corner. The only thing they have repeated is not telling the actor/actress in question that their character is the killer which they did to their cost with Lacey Turner after Archie's murder so she had no idea how to react to it. It might be the case that they've got around it this time as the character may have been so traumatised by what they have done, that they have blocked it out mentally. |
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| Mrs Peel | 20 Oct 2014, 14:26 Post #1196 |
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Exactly. DTC has said that the actor/actress portraying the murderer would be told in January that this is the plan, which leads me to believe that the murderer is someone he knows who plans on not renewing a contract. Or someone they've told would not be having their contract renewed. Usually, we get two series of announcements annually about actors leaving - one near the beginning of the year (this year, we were told of Patsy Palmer early on, last year, it was Scott Maslen and Steve John Shepherd). Then we usually get another announcement mid-year of whoever is leaving Christmas/New Year/early part of the next year. Apart from Timothy West seeing out his contract, we've heard nothing. The murderer is someone who's chosen not to renew a contract and whom we've not been told is leaving, or it's someone who's contract isn't being renewed, and we've not been told whom yet (Dexter?) Having Dexter kill Lucy would be a massive cop-out. My suspects are still Ronnie/Charlie, Peter or Lee Carter. Come on, with Martin returning, can you see him anyplace but on the market stall? That's a clue to Peter not sticking around, and there are odd remarks about Lee here and there - cf: Dexter being amazed that the army would trust Lee with a gun and Nancy referring to him as a psycho. |
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| david | 21 Oct 2014, 22:10 Post #1197 |
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Ronnie and Charlie were always high on my list, but after recent episodes and especially tonight's (21st) I'm having doubts. It's now clear that Ronnie was not involved in the fake police visit to Dot and also that she did not know Charlie before then. After coming out of prison, they made Ronnie into a hard and tough character. She now seems to have had something of a change in direction and become much softer. I think it's unlikely that she would have confessed to killing Carl if she had also killed Lucy. It seems to me that they we are moving towards someone closer to Lucy being her killer, probably a friend or family. |
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| EndersFanatic | 21 Oct 2014, 22:23 Post #1198 |
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I am still in the opinion it is Peter or Lee. I dont think Ronnie or Charlie Cotton. Maybe we find that Peter killed his twin sister, intentional or unintentional. |
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| Mrs Peel | 22 Oct 2014, 01:06 Post #1199 |
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Ronnie told Charlie she'd killed a man. Maybe he didn't know she'd killed before. They're still high on my list as suspects. Peter and Lee figure there as well. Lee does because I find it weird the way he gets very close physically and emotionally to girls he hardly knows, then has the ability to literally walk away from one to another without another thought. He was with Lucy two of the last three days of her life. He met her on a Wednesday morning and they were in bed that afternoon, after which, she binned him, telling him she was seeing someone else. He walked from the Beale house, ran into Whitney and immediately started chatting her up. Later that afternoon, Lucy saw him kissing Whitney. On Thursday, she finished with Max, told Lee Whitney had been a prostitute and went out with him that night, spending the night with him. She was killed the next night. Even though he hadn't known her a long time, he was close to her, and when he returned a few months later, he zoomed right in on Whitney, almost stalking her, and then feeding her the line about wanting to get married young and have kids. Since then, however, he's been lukewarm about the relationship. Peter is a suspect for obvious reasons. No one's even investigated where he was that night, and his behaviour has been suspect. Also, with Martin Fowler returning to the Square, I can only see him fronting the fruit'n veg stall once again, which means Peter Posh is leaving - either to go trekking around the world on Daddy's credit card with Lauren, or to prison for killing his sister. |
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| Dan | 22 Oct 2014, 07:54 Post #1200 |
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I like the Ronnie/Charlie theory a lot but there is a distinct lack of tension between them for two people who have killed someone. That the pair of them are psychopaths is a valid theory but you'd think some tension would have come up in their rom/com. I still like the theory and wouldn't be at all annoyed if it were true but I'm drifting from it. Lee is very possible but I can't help but feel that he has been so underplayed that it would have a distinct lack of impact on viewers. I get the feeling it would get a "who? Oh, him" but it is possible he flipped out, killed her and doesn't remember it. I think he is probably a red herring though. Peter is possible, definitely, he had no alibi and lots of motive for being angry with Lucy but I also wonder about Lauren too. Jacqueline Jossa is having her first child and although the assumption is that she will go on maternity and return, perhaps she doesn't intend to return. We know Lauren reacts in an extreme manner to feeling slighted as shown when she tried to kill Max. Was she actually at Roxy's party all night? Another question that needs to be answered is how did Ben come into possession of Lucy's purse and phone and was it before or after she died? I will imagine a flashback episode will tell us this. Edited by Dan, 22 Oct 2014, 07:57.
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