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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,871 Views)
soetmo
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Whitney is still highly probable....
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Bec
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I'm leaning towards Whitney at the moment. Those messages Lucy was sending her and the 'Rot in hell' note were forgotton about too quickly for my liking, I think there's more to surface there.

Whitney's also been reasonably quiet the past while, so that potentially means there's big stuff for her in the next year. What's bigger than being a murderer?

Besides, I placed a bet on her and Abi back in April so one of them better have done it!

Speaking of betting, in case anyone's interested, here are the current favourites with the bookies:

1: Jane Beale
2: Jay Brown
3: Lola Pearce
4: Ben Mitchell
5: Abi Branning

Very surprising to me that Jane's on top given that she's not on screen at the moment, and what motive would she have?
Edited by Bec, 22 Oct 2014, 10:49.
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Sey
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Did anyone hear about the anonymous woman who placed 25 bets on Jane yesterday before the bookies in question pulled Jane from the running? Very interesting...
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MrJames
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Ben Hardy said in an interview about a month ago that he was strongly beginning to suspect Jane. She probably comes back and dives head first into a mystery.
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Dan
22 Oct 2014, 07:54
I like the Ronnie/Charlie theory a lot but there is a distinct lack of tension between them for two people who have killed someone. That the pair of them are psychopaths is a valid theory but you'd think some tension would have come up in their rom/com. I still like the theory and wouldn't be at all annoyed if it were true but I'm drifting from it.




That's precisely why I think they still may have done this deed. Psychopaths are skewed anyway and even though they are incapable of empathy, they are capable of obsession. Ronnie's obsessions are Roxy and having a child. Now that she's pregnant again, she's taken her eye off Roxy, who's involved with a man who's stringing her along, making her believe they have a future, whilst maintaining his wife and child a few streets away. Charlie, from what he's said lately, has a minor obsession with being a dad, never having had one, himself. Ronnie's picked up on the daddy issue, just as Michael picked up on Janine's daddy issue. I think they've pushed Lucy to the furthest regions of their minds, if they are the killers. Pyschopaths can compartmentalise that sort of stuff as well, particularly since they haven't been eyed as suspects thus far.

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Lee is very possible but I can't help but feel that he has been so underplayed that it would have a distinct lack of impact on viewers. I get the feeling it would get a "who? Oh, him" but it is possible he flipped out, killed her and doesn't remember it. I think he is probably a red herring though.



It's Lee's behaviour that does it for me. Even when he got drunk and said what became the fact that he'd seen Lucy arguing with Billy, he began by saying he'd "done something stupid." What happened after she argued with Billy? It sounded weird that he would have just returned to the party. Also, because the Carters being the new toy on the block with this EP have been connected, even peripherally, with every other storyline that's transpired, I can't help thinking that if one of them (most likely SuperShirley) doesn't solve the crime of who the murderer is, then one of them will be revealed as the murderer - and that's got to be Lee.

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Peter is possible, definitely, he had no alibi and lots of motive for being angry with Lucy but I also wonder about Lauren too. Jacqueline Jossa is having her first child and although the assumption is that she will go on maternity and return, perhaps she doesn't intend to return. We know Lauren reacts in an extreme manner to feeling slighted as shown when she tried to kill Max.


I don't know about Jossa's intent to return (fingers crossed that she doesn't), but since James Bye has been cast as Martin and since Martin is returning, I have a feeling Ben Hardy will be leaving. I never expected him to stay long in the role, and I can only see Martin on the stall; so Peter will either leave to go travelling (with Lauren, with her returning and him staying on in New Zealand or Florida), or Peter's the killer. Since killers seem to be able to return, either way, we'll see Peter in about five years' time with a different head.

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Was she actually at Roxy's party all night?


I don't think Lauren or Abi have the ability to carry off something like this. Lauren was seen going to Roxy's party.

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Another question that needs to be answered is how did Ben come into possession of Lucy's purse and phone and was it before or after she died? I will imagine a flashback episode will tell us this.


That's a good question. It's conceiveable that Ben could have killed Lucy, but I don't think they'd bring the character back for that purpose.
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Soetmo
22 Oct 2014, 10:30
Whitney is still highly probable....
Thank you.

This is something else.

Whitney has never been approached, yet the night Lucy died, when Whitney arrived in the Vic, looking for Lee, only to be told by Lauren that Lee was with Lucy and had spent the night with Lucy, Whitney's first reaction was to splutter, "I'll kill her." (Meaning Lucy). She eyeballed Lucy as well in passing after making that remark.

We know from the "Rot in Hell" message left at her funeral that Lucy had been bullying Whitney, but no one ever approached the police with any of this information. I realise Whitney is Lauren's friend, but so was Lucy, and making a remark like that is worth having the person questioned. Also, the Masoods found the note and Tamwar recognised the handwriting, yet instead of approaching the police, he approached Whitney, who came up with the bullying story.

I thought, when this storyline began, that we were going to find out all these salacious secrets about Lucy, leading people to believe that no one really knew her well at all. All we've found out since is that she was a habitual user of cocaine (which we knew before her death), that she was sleeping with Max Branning and that she bullied Whitney about her weight.
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Sey
22 Oct 2014, 12:31
Did anyone hear about the anonymous woman who placed 25 bets on Jane yesterday before the bookies in question pulled Jane from the running? Very interesting...
I would actually love it to be the sactimonious Jane.
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I hope it's not Jane as she's been off screen for a lot of the storyline. I don't think Ben and Jay were involved with the actual murder, they'll either have taken her phone before she died or seen her body afterwards. Either way I could understand them not calling the police as Ben had just got out of prison.

I'm sticking with Peter as my first choice but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Lee. I also wouldn't be bothered about him leaving. There will be a lot of focus on the Carters over Christmas though, I'm hoping by February the focus will be on other characters and the Carters won't be involved in the Lucy storyline.
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I wonder when we'll revisit the fact that Shabnam pocketed the "Rot in Hell" card - we haven't heard a single peep from that strand since then. Billy, Pam and the photos feels like another thing that will need to be addressed again at some point, along with the more obvious things like Jay, Ben and Lucy's belongings.

It'll be interesting to see how they're going to tie it all together in the end.
Edited by TellyAddict, 22 Oct 2014, 13:53.
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soetmo
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Whitney has been very quiet of late. She's my current number one suspect.
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Sey
22 Oct 2014, 12:31
Did anyone hear about the anonymous woman who placed 25 bets on Jane yesterday before the bookies in question pulled Jane from the running? Very interesting...
Yeah this was interesting
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/21/all-bets-are-off-as-jane-beale-is-leaked-as-lucy-beales-shock-murderer-4914775/
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Is anyone concerned that the killer's identity will leak before the live ep? The actor concerned will find out in January but if it's been narrowed down to four suspects, then the cast and crew will have an idea of who it is. That situation is rife for a leak in my opinion.

My money is on Lee Carter!
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Jade
22 Oct 2014, 15:46
Sey
22 Oct 2014, 12:31
Did anyone hear about the anonymous woman who placed 25 bets on Jane yesterday before the bookies in question pulled Jane from the running? Very interesting...
Yeah this was interesting
http://metro.co.uk/2014/10/21/all-bets-are-off-as-jane-beale-is-leaked-as-lucy-beales-shock-murderer-4914775/
It's probably just some mad yoke with money to burn who has convinced herself that Jane did the deed. I highly doubt it's a leak from the inside.
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Next week looks interesting.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a606087/eastenders-spoiler-pictures-emma-is-shocked-by-lucy-beale-murder-twist.html#~oU1bxvKKTts1pQ

It seems suspicion is on the Brannings, and not Peter as we first thought. I think it's telling that once again his involvement is completely skimmed over.

Better yet, it seems the Cokers know something too.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a606150/eastenders-spoiler-pictures-pam-coker-panics-about-her-secret.html

It's about time we got the ball rolling on this mystery.
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I think Pam's panic over Emma is a red herring because according to the new Inside Soap issue; After the spoilers for 3rd-7th Nov the next week section states "Billy discovers the tragic history of the Cokers" so my suspicion is that Pam helped her and Les' son to die and Pam fears she could be prosecuted if it was found out.

The story of Lucy's murder in every major development and as a result most of the characters involved mainly Whitney, Billy, Ben, Jay, Max, Lauren, Abi and Rainie have pre-established links to the Beale and Branning units in some form.
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Okay so now I'm brewing with the Lee notion. My brainstorming includes phrases such as:

Post-traumatic stress
Blackouts
He said he couldn't remember leaving the party
Maybe he has epilepsy too? (it can be genetic and it can start in later life)

Lola and Cindy are still my main gurls tho.
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The problem with Whitney is I don't know if she has enough "weight" as she hasn't been featured very heavily or had any emotional storylines lately. The other problem is I don't want her to leave, as I resonate with her in some way, and she's my favourite young female character besides Lola.

I also think she's very "Eastenders" and can do very well if she gets good material and can be bothered. So if she wants to stay she's a good investment for the future of the show. We've been following her for a long time and it would be interesting to see her grow older and start a family, etc.

I just can't think of anyone who would make a real impact on me apart from Ian, Peter, and Mick, and I don't think it can be one of them.
Edited by Winters, 3 Nov 2014, 17:55.
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I'm starting to see Lola as a more likely suspect. It'll have Peter feel responsible without having to make him the one responsible, and it'd conveniently dispose of Lola so Ben can be forced to bond with/have custody of Lexi. There is a history of plot device killings to give male Mitchells back their children...
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Lola's trip "to see her sick friend" could become significant later on if she's the killer. My main suspects are Whitney and Lola. I can't bear to think about it being one of the Beales and I don't think it's Lee because DTC wouldn't make a member of his trophy family a murderer so soon. And imagine the Daily Mirror headline "EastEnders says troops with PTSD are dangerous killers".
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If it's Lola, she'll be staying with the show.
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