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| Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories | |
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| MrJames | 30 Nov 2014, 14:48 Post #1401 |
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Not entirely sure Jamie should have revealed that piece of information, but there you go. Funny, we were all saying Jay should get more material and now look at him. |
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| Mrs Peel | 30 Nov 2014, 15:04 Post #1402 |
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If it's true what Borthwick said - and I agree, maybe he shouldn't have disclosed it - people must be pissing themselves. Because whoever killed Lucy is going to leave the show. Already we've had Jake Wood blathering on about how he loves the show, how he isn't going anywhere, but (worryingly) how he hasn't got word yet about a new contract renewal in May. Someone came up with an interesting theory in conversation yesterday - they read Ben's and Jay's interplay on Friday as meaning they moved Lucy's body. Considering the cryptic conversation between Max and Abi recently about keeping a secret between them about what happened on Good Friday, perhaps Max could have killed her. But then, the "eight persons" theory could all be smoke-and-mirrors. |
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| Dan | 30 Nov 2014, 16:50 Post #1403 |
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My theory with Ben and Jay is simple - they mugged her. Ben doesn't want to tell Ian this as if it was known they'd gotten physical with Lucy, they'd be in twice as much trouble as they already are. Why would Ben and Jay stumble across Lucy's body and move it? Lola would be a very silly, convoluted reason. |
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| WalfordE20 | 30 Nov 2014, 19:13 Post #1404 |
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If one thing is certain it's that Ben's story doesn't add up. So according to him, he found the bag, robbed the phone and purse, then realised who they belonged to and buried them. Several reasons this is a lie: - He didn't say where he found the bag. If he genuinely stumbled across it, its location could have been a clue as to the killer's identity. - Lucy's bag was found by her body. Are we supposed to believe that killer found it before dumping her body and used it to stage a mugging? - The phone and purse weren't buried until three months after she died. Then, it was only because Ian was pointing fingers at Billy. Lola is starting to rise up my suspect list. |
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| NevermindMe | 30 Nov 2014, 19:18 Post #1405 |
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Remember the items were buried after Billy was arrested... Just saying. Lola you naughty girl. |
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| MrJames | 30 Nov 2014, 19:28 Post #1406 |
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I'm beginning to feel pleased that Lola has been my Number 1 for a while. So maybe Lola killed Lucy and Jay helped her? Has there been a scene with just the two of them in since Lucy's death? I'm not sure. I keep coming back to the fact that Ronnie ran Lola over exactly a week before Lucy's death. I just feel like there is something in that. |
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| Shamelessness | 30 Nov 2014, 19:34 Post #1407 |
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I've also noticed the absence of any scenes between Jay and Lola, especially in the aftermath of Jay dumping Abi. |
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| Desdemona | 30 Nov 2014, 19:40 Post #1408 |
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I don't want to lose Lola (and surely, the killer would have to disappear for some time) How about Abi? In my family everyone is convinced that Jay and Ben are trying to protect Abi. Not that I want to get rid of her but it seems that a non-relative is the most popular choice with the audience |
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| Forest11 | 30 Nov 2014, 20:05 Post #1409 |
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Jay went to pot when he covered up Heather's death so I don't think he knows who Killed Lucy. Also if the phone and Purse were only staging a mugging after death then why not take the bag as well. Why would Ben know if it was Jay covering and helping Lola unless he was there as well? Ben said to Jay we better not hope the stuff was dug up when he returned. |
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| Kim | 30 Nov 2014, 20:14 Post #1410 |
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I only watched a little of what Jamie Borthwick said, so forgive me if it was made obvious, but where are we getting that the killer is definitely leaving? I'm not sure I believe what he said about them filming the bit after the murderer is discovered. If that's the case, how would they get away with not telling the killer until January? It's his opinion that the killer needs to be told now, and I see the logic. |
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| NevermindMe | 30 Nov 2014, 20:19 Post #1411 |
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The killers moments in the live week will be live segments inserted into pre recorded episodes so from that week on and March, we'll have pre recorded scenes from January inserted in. I think this will work. I'm going for Lola delivered the blow, Billy moved the body and Jay/Ben are covering up for them. It's the one side of the Mitchell family that Ian wouldn't expect. Sharon will be torn to protect her friend but be loyal to Phil. I can see how this will have big implications. |
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| Winters | 30 Nov 2014, 20:39 Post #1412 |
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How can you be sure? Ben Hardy said it wasn't necessarily going to follow the standard soap opera law where the killer gets sent to prison. So it might never happen, or it could take as long as 5 years, or even longer than it took for Stacy. I now feel sure that it's Ian. There are so many clues and it just seems obvious to me. I just find it funny others don't see it. Well, well. Time will tell. Edited by Winters, 30 Nov 2014, 20:39.
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| WalfordE20 | 30 Nov 2014, 20:43 Post #1413 |
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Skimming through the Good Friday episode again and the last time she sees Lauren, Lucy says she is going to leave Peter a message... Although it's becoming increasingly unlikely now, I still think he would make the most upsetting killer. Besides, we never saw them share a final scene together. Also, on the subject of sending messages, apparentlyWhat's On TV has revealed that the unsent message was for Spoiler: click to toggle and that Spoiler: click to toggle gave her the coke. Interesting if true as Lucy confirmed to Ian that she paid for it. |
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| soetmo | 30 Nov 2014, 21:09 Post #1414 |
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Lola and Whitney are suspiciously absent.... |
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| leobeast | 30 Nov 2014, 21:24 Post #1415 |
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Wow I hadn't realised that Jay and Lola hadn't shared any one on one scenes in months until it was pointed out. That is very odd indeed, considering how close they are and the fact that Abi is accusing them of being in love with each other, you'd have thought they would have had some sort of contact. |
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| Jack1997 | 30 Nov 2014, 21:25 Post #1416 |
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Those suggesting that it was a Billy/Lola/Ben/Jay inside job should watch this from that point of view and just see how guilty he looks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eeE0vJaMMU Also to support that, in the alibi video, Lola said "I wanted to go to Roxy's party with Peter but he wasn't in the mood." I also seem to remember her saying that she stayed in with Lexi. Strange, because... who's this, I wonder? ![]() Billy has always been my top contender, and with odds 100/1 available on him, it's looking like now's a good time to get the bets in. Edited by Jack1997, 30 Nov 2014, 21:26.
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| WalfordE20 | 30 Nov 2014, 21:28 Post #1417 |
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I just thought it down to block storytelling and iffy writing, but if it was deliberate then it could make for a very clever outcome indeed. I still maintain that, logically, whoever dumped Lucy on the common must have known she had reason to be there. |
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| Mrs Peel | 30 Nov 2014, 21:44 Post #1418 |
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I thought Ben said they'd found the bag in the street, took the purse and phone, then realised it was Lucy's and tried to return it. Whatever. As you say, it didn't add up because it was an immediate lie, and Ian knew it. I thought it was told, almost immediately, that Lucy's bag was with her body on the Common. The viewers saw it, and the police confirmed it because, initially, they said she was mugged. Then, when they realised she hadn't been killed at the site where her body was found, they said the killer staged it to look like a mugging, which is plausible. It's also very plausible that Ben and Jay could have moved the body, either at the request of the killer, himself or herself, which would make the killer someone close to either one of them or both, probably both. That may also indicate that the killer might be a female. There are three female characters who relate either emotionally or by family to both Jay and Ben - Abi, Lola and Ronnie. Take your pick. Lola hasn't even begun to figure yet. She's a sensitive girl, has immense compassion and I don't think she would be able to hide such a secret this long. Abi? Well, for many she's a possibility, but I keep thinking of the morning after the event. Abi and Jay ran into each other at The Minute Mart. Abi was buying paracetamol for Max, who had a hangover. Jay was buying bleach and disinfectant. He asked her where she'd been the night before because he hadn't seen her at Ronnie's party. Abi replied that she'd been revising. Jay told her he had been dispatched to buy cleaning ingredients to clean and disinfect Ronnie's house from the party the night before and asked Abi if she wanted to help. She refused. Abi has the capacity for slyness, and we've certainly seen another side to her nature recently, but I don't think she'd be able to keep a secret of this proportion for so long. Max, perhaps? He features in as a possible suspect. He was quick to point the finger at Jake Stone - as were Ian and Peter, who seemed disinclined to believe he might be innocent. And then there was that cryptic exchange between him and Abi about what happened on Good Friday. Maybe Max made Jay and Ben think that Abi had accidentally killed Lucy and got them to move the body. Still don't think so. Whoever was instrumental in moving the body knew that the valuable contents of Lucy's handbag had to be removed to make it look like a mugging. Either of those boys might be capable of that, but this sounds like a Mitchell motive of a higher calibre than of which Ben is capable at the moment. |
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| Mrs Peel | 30 Nov 2014, 21:46 Post #1419 |
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There was a scene in the Vic, where Abi was standing at the bar and Jay and Lola were at the other end. Lola had come in alone and was talking to Jay, and both noticed Abi giving them a death stare the whole time. |
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| Mrs Peel | 30 Nov 2014, 21:47 Post #1420 |
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Someone I was speaking with this weekend is convinced that it's Abi for that very reason, and that this is the real reason for Jay dumping her. |
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