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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,860 Views)
Mrs Peel
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Winters
30 Nov 2014, 20:39
Mrs Peel
30 Nov 2014, 15:04
Because whoever killed Lucy is going to leave the show.

How can you be sure? Ben Hardy said it wasn't necessarily going to follow the standard soap opera law where the killer gets sent to prison. So it might never happen, or it could take as long as 5 years, or even longer than it took for Stacy.

I now feel sure that it's Ian. There are so many clues and it just seems obvious to me. I just find it funny others don't see it.

Well, well. Time will tell.
Why? Actually Ben Hardy said that DTC said it didn't necessarily have to follow that pattern, he didn't specifically state that it would. This is Lucy Beale, an important legacy character, whose father is still resident on the Square.

Unless it's Ian, there is no way he would countenance his daughter's killer living on the Square. Another Stacey situation, with the viewers knowing the killer until Christmas 2015 wouldn't wash either. This storyline was written to be resolved on the 30th. Prolonging the result of the 25th Anniversary episode did the show no favours and also did a hit-job on Stacey's character in the lead up to her departure.

If the killer is Ian, then Adam Woodyatt would have to leave the show. This is someone who has killed another person, perhaps accidentally, and then concealed the crime. Even if Ian did this in the throes of a mental breakdown, he'd have to go away, at least, to a hospital for sometime, and I seriously doubt Ian would be able to live with himself after this.
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I highly doubt the killer will leave the show.
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Even for the killing of Lucy Beale? Then the show is becoming a farce, with the number of people who have killed other people and served minimal time for it as well as those who have done so secretly and are still skulking about.
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30 Nov 2014, 20:43
Skimming through the Good Friday episode again and the last time she sees Lauren, Lucy says she is going to leave Peter a message... Although it's becoming increasingly unlikely now, I still think he would make the most upsetting killer. Besides, we never saw them share a final scene together.

Also, on the subject of sending messages, apparentlyWhat's On TV has revealed that the unsent message was for
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gave her the coke. Interesting if true as Lucy confirmed to Ian that she paid for it.
If that's the case it makes zero sense to what we saw onscreen already.

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Jade
30 Nov 2014, 22:12
WalfordE20
30 Nov 2014, 20:43
Skimming through the Good Friday episode again and the last time she sees Lauren, Lucy says she is going to leave Peter a message... Although it's becoming increasingly unlikely now, I still think he would make the most upsetting killer. Besides, we never saw them share a final scene together.

Also, on the subject of sending messages, apparentlyWhat's On TV has revealed that the unsent message was for
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and that
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gave her the coke. Interesting if true as Lucy confirmed to Ian that she paid for it.
If that's the case it makes zero sense to what we saw onscreen already.

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30 Nov 2014, 21:44

It's also very plausible that Ben and Jay could have moved the body, either at the request of the killer, himself or herself, which would make the killer someone close to either one of them or both, probably both. That may also indicate that the killer might be a female. There are three female characters who relate either emotionally or by family to both Jay and Ben - Abi, Lola and Ronnie. Take your pick.
Interesting... I hadn't thought of Ronnie in that context, but yes, it is possible that Ben & Jay could have moved the body for Ronnie.

I posted my theory about Jay helping Lola (or possibly Abi) a while ago, before we knew that Ben was also involved. With both Ben and Jay involved, the possibility of a connection with the Mitchells becomes somewhat greater.

The weakness of the Lola theory is that she just doesn't seem the sort of person who could hide something like this. She does have possible motive - her jealousy of Lucy and Peter's close relationship and Lucy's treatment of her 'pops', Billy.

If the killer is to be revealed in a live slot, we know that Lola can do live well (giving birth); Ronnie made a complete hash of her role in the Archie killer reveal.

I've made two bets: Ronnie at 50/1 and Lola at 10/1, so you can guess which outcome I'd prefer!
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The truth is we've seen very little of Lola since Lucy died and Billy too. There's a reason for this.

Billy was also questioned, which makes it all the more shocking because he's (on that grounds) almost been eliminated as an option.
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I would be SO upset if it is either Billy or Lola.
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30 Nov 2014, 23:27
I would be SO upset if it is either Billy or Lola.
If Perry Fenwick was leaving of his own accord, I think it could be a fantastic exit storyline for him. I hope it's not Lola because it will just be a bit too similar to Stacey and the 25th anniversary.
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30 Nov 2014, 23:30
ian
30 Nov 2014, 23:27
I would be SO upset if it is either Billy or Lola.
If Perry Fenwick was leaving of his own accord, I think it could be a fantastic exit storyline for him. I hope it's not Lola because it will just be a bit too similar to Stacey and the 25th anniversary.
The fact that I would be affected so strongly is proof that it would certainly be a strong storyline, definitely, and I wouldn't be averse to it for either of them if it was their exit line and the actor had decided to leave of their own accord (though I'd probably need some convincing as to why Lola didn't come forward). But equally, I'd be highly disappointed if they decided to throw away brilliant actors who have proved their loyalty to the show for the sake of a Whodunnit, or, worse, had another killer floating around the square unpunished.
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Mrs Peel is correct about Ian, if he did this, he's gone. It would not simply be put down to a tragedy and Ian will be left to get on with his life, he would have to be placed in a secure psychiatric unit indefinitely. He would be a danger to others as if you can kill anyone (much less your own daughter), dump their body and not remember it, you are not safe to live in the community.

This would have to be Ian's swan song if it were him. He is one of the "unaxeables" (himself, June Brown, Steve McFadden, Jake Wood, Letitia Dean and Lacey Turner) where the actor will choose when to call it a day. Unless Adam has chosen to go, which I doubt, it's not Ian.

It needs to be a character who is either cool enough to keep it under wraps or who was having such an episode that they can't remember doing it. As much as I would hate it to be due to the family's prominence and the poor acting, I think it might well be Lee as much as I don't want it to be.

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Ian, Denise, Masood, Jane, Ben, Jay, Max, David, Lee, Billy and Patrick.

As far as I'm aware, all of these people are guilty of perverting the course of justice and/or lying to the police although Patrick is doing so unknowingly as Denise told him that she would sort it and he trusted her in good faith. If they were all caught, they might all get a sentence put together that runs in line with the killer!
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I'm starting to change my mind about Peter now. It is strange that Lola wasn't around when Ben returned, and since then we haven't seen her and Jay together. I don't think Jay knows who killed Lucy though, but I think something happened between them after they got off the bus. Or maybe Jay and Ben saw her body on the common but didn't tell the police because they already had her phone, and thought they'd be accused of her murder after what happened with Heather.
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I think the person who dumped Lucy was someone who knew she had reason to be at the Common. By that, I'm thinking a member of the Beales or Brannings who knew about LB Lettings. Whether they're the same person that killed her is another matter, but I think it's somebody that was aware she wouldn't look out of place if found there. I'd include Billy in that list too.

I'm also waiting for Lucy's fall in the car lot to be re-addressed. The fact it hasn't is due to either lazy or intelligent writing, though I can't decide which. Three months to go and there are still so many loose ends to tie up. This story has to be done justice.
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I've recently been recording the repeats of Broadchurch for someone, and there are quite a lot of similarities. If anyone's watching the repeats then they shouldn't read this.

- Danny's friend deleted texts and emails after he was murdered. Whitney did the same not long after Lucy died.
- Danny's dad was having an affair and was with the woman the night Danny was killed. Ian slept with Rainie the night Lucy died.
- Danny left the house to meet someone and was seen on CCTV. Same with Lucy.
- Danny's body was moved after he was killed. Lucy's body was moved to Walford Common.
- Danny was seen arguing with the postman not long before he died. Lucy was seen arguing with Billy.
- Danny's blood was found as he'd cut himself before he was killed. Lucy did the same in the car lot which will probably be discovered at some point.
- Danny's phone was missing. Lucy's wallet and phone were taken although that could have happened before she died.
- IIRC there was an alcoholic in Broadchurch. Jake was an alcoholic.

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The murderer in Broadchurch was married to the first police officer we met, was the father of Danny's friend, and was abusing Danny. Max is now having a relationship with the first police officer we met, is the father of Lauren, and was having a relationship with Lucy. I'm not saying I think Max killed Lucy or that they'd want to completely copy Broadchurch, I just thought the comparisons were interesting. I thought it was also interesting that Jake Wood's contract hasn't been renewed yet. I'm sure it will be, but if Max was the murderer then maybe they'd want Jake to be aware of that before he decided to stay.

I've also just realised that Broadchurch had a character who lived in a caravan and had a secret son!
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Katie
2 Dec 2014, 01:44
I've recently been recording the repeats of Broadchurch for someone, and there are quite a lot of similarities. If anyone's watching the repeats then they shouldn't read this.

- Danny's friend deleted texts and emails after he was murdered. Whitney did the same not long after Lucy died.
- Danny's dad was having an affair and was with the woman the night Danny was killed. Ian slept with Rainie the night Lucy died.
- Danny left the house to meet someone and was seen on CCTV. Same with Lucy.
- Danny's body was moved after he was killed. Lucy's body was moved to Walford Common.
- Danny was seen arguing with the postman not long before he died. Lucy was seen arguing with Billy.
- Danny's blood was found as he'd cut himself before he was killed. Lucy did the same in the car lot which will probably be discovered at some point.
- Danny's phone was missing. Lucy's wallet and phone were taken although that could have happened before she died.
- IIRC there was an alcoholic in Broadchurch. Jake was an alcoholic.

Also,

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The murderer in Broadchurch was married to the first police officer we met, was the father of Danny's friend, and was abusing Danny. Max is now having a relationship with the first police officer we met, is the father of Lauren, and was having a relationship with Lucy. I'm not saying I think Max killed Lucy or that they'd want to completely copy Broadchurch, I just thought the comparisons were interesting. I thought it was also interesting that Jake Wood's contract hasn't been renewed yet. I'm sure it will be, but if Max was the murderer then maybe they'd want Jake to be aware of that before he decided to stay.

I've also just realised that Broadchurch had a character who lived in a caravan and had a secret son!
Jake Wood seems to be more than a little perturbed that his contract had yet to be discussed and went to great lengths to assure the reading public (and the EP) how much he enjoyed working in the show, assuring everyone that he was "going nowhere."

Well, that's not really his choice at the end of the day, but he seems a bit nervous of the fact. Emmerdale got rid of a long-standing and highly popular character (albeit in a different way) for their 40th, and every character is expendable.

Maybe Max is the killer. Remember the cryptic line he made to Abi about keeping secret what happened on Good Friday?
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Katie
2 Dec 2014, 01:44
I've also just realised that Broadchurch had a character who lived in a caravan and had a secret son!
And her son's name was Carter!

You can't just come bounding in here like John Wayne on a Spacehopper!

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MrJames
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Sharon Marshall teased a "present underneath the tree" that could lead to a Lucy secret.

It's like a ten-month long episode of Murder She Wrote.
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I read somewhere that the killer leaves a Christmas message for the Beales, so that would fit in with that. Exciting times.
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It all got very twisted all of a sudden.
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