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Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories
Topic Started: 20 Apr 2014, 05:49 (367,849 Views)
Fehnder
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Is there a link to watch the fatboy phone video?
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Fehnder
31 Dec 2014, 03:13
Is there a link to watch the fatboy phone video?
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152890937109939&set=vb.169383494938&type=3&theater
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Bec
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Yep, you can hear Lola saying "Stop it" in the video. Eeek, I think it's her.

She's at 14/1 on Ladbrokes if you fancy a flutter. Not bad odds. :P
Edited by Bec, 31 Dec 2014, 03:31.
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Fehnder
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Do we have a definitive timeline of when the video was taken, before the party?

Thank you by the way :)
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Also, speaking of betting, I'd advise placing your bets before Thursday if you haven't done so already as the odds for all 11 suspects will shorten pretty sharpish once they're revealed.

I'm very excited to see who is on the final list and who isn't.

My guess: Ian, Jane, Peter, Cindy, Denise, Lauren, Max, Abi, Whitney, Lola, Les
Edited by Bec, 31 Dec 2014, 03:40.
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Fehnder
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I still think lola is a gonner.

But she does link to billy, jay, Peter and Ben. She also may have been aware of peters feelings for Lauren and wasn't there a question of whether the killer got the wrong person?

Ben would protect her due to him not wanting to be responsible for lexi, billy would, jay might due to his feelings (that died out pretty quick!)

Also if the video was before the party she might have thought Lauren was looking for peter?

Lola would also protect billy had he been the killer.

Incidentally, a lola death caused by Ronnie/roxy driving a car that crashes due to a nick interference also links the cotton Mitchell feud to the Lucy story and explains why Sharon attends the funeral without her family (Ronnie and roxy being unable or not allowed to attend and billy in the undertakers car)
Edited by Fehnder, 31 Dec 2014, 04:03.
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Fehnder
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I put bets on billy, max and Peter. Might add a sneaky one on lola just in case!

Billy was 66/1! I'm happy with those odds!
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On New Years Day we only find out the final list of suspects, however we still need to remember we nearly have two months build up from now till the reveal left. I'm pretty sure there are still more doubts, twists and turns to come and they want to keep us guessing until the day of the anniversary.
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How would people feel if the person who dies on Thursday turns out to be the killer (by dying it removes suspicions while avoiding the killer going to prison/dying at the reveal)

Also, in the Lucy story so far, lola isn't in it once (which I would take as she isn't going to be a suspect) found it odd though that pam talking to les was included? Saying about how they'd all find out?

After looking at the b and b, beales and roxys house, Emma goes home, looks at a picture of roxys house (although the pic is essentially her door and the flats next to hers, cctv footage (I can only think it's the Walford common entrance one) the pic of max and Lucy kissing, and another house (can't tell if it's roxys again from a different angle or the beale house.)

I'm stumped!
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31 Dec 2014, 01:49
Mrs Peel
31 Dec 2014, 01:41

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And how would Ben have recognised it? Or any of the suspects that don't live in the Beale household?

Ben lived with Ian for awhile during the aftermath of Heather's death. Wasn't he living with Ian when he confessed to Heather's murder? He was also close to Lucy. Since he was a child, Ben would have been in and out of his brother's house, upstairs and downstairs. He surely would have been, at some point, in Lucy's room.

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Abi has shown form of pulling tricks like this earlier in the year with the email and her Halloween stunt. Maybe Abi overheard Peter and Lauren talking about Lucy keeping her drugs in her jewelry box? Maybe she found it amongst Lucy's things when she was babysitting Beth on Christmas Eve?


The jewelry box was bought from the charity shop. Ian confirmed that he had taken a load of Lucy's belongings, as you do, to the charity shop after her death. He confirmed that the jewelry case was amongst those belongings. This was bought from the charity shop by someone who recognised it as having belonged to Lucy - if anything, this smacks of a trick Ben would pull, and Ben had just been there, off-screen, delivering presents.

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Just because she'd never been formally introduced to the jewelry box doesn't mean she couldn't have left it under the tree... not that I'm definitely saying she did.


The jewelry box wasn't in the Beale house in Lucy's room on Christmas Eve. Ian had long ago taken it to the charity shop.

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Besides, the person who left the gift under the tree may not even be the killer.


Maybe not, but that was a pretty sick thing to do, whoever did it.



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Emma put the box there to unsettle the families and assess their reactions. I thought that was clear?
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Last night, I thought everything pointed to Abi, but I'm not so sure now. I'm actually beginning to think it may be Lola and Ben helped her move the body on condition that Lola not tell anyone she'd seen him or that he was about. That would explain why Lola cacked herself when she found out that Ben was returning to Walford and fled.
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31 Dec 2014, 02:48
'STOP IT' was an answer to Ian's crossword in the CiN episode - and Lola can be heard saying this multiple times in Fatboy's video. Not to mention the fact that Lola lied about her alibi.

Billy and Lola it is then, with Ben and/or Jay involved.
Yes, Lola lied in her alibi, and she flitted briefly in and out of that video. Lola killed Lucy. Ben and Jay helped her move the body on the promise that she wouldn't tell about Ben's release. This is why she broke down when she learned that Ben was returning to Walford and fled.
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Fehnder
31 Dec 2014, 03:59
How would people feel if the person who dies on Thursday turns out to be the killer (by dying it removes suspicions while avoiding the killer going to prison/dying at the reveal)

That would be the biggest cop-out and con in the history of the show. I would feel cheated, and I expect a lot of other viewers would as well.
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I've shipped Billy and Lola as the killers for sometime. It just feels so much more tragic than any other outcome.

I initially shipped Abi as the killer with a small suspicion of Terry Spraggan but that soon disappeared. Since Abi went a bit nutty, I felt she was a red herring and I've been saying Billy/Lola with some involvement from Ben and Jay but they don't all necessarily know of each others involvement.
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My only worry with the possibility of Emma being killed on Thursday is that suddenly there is a double killer on the loose unless her death is a tragic accident. That's why I'm convinced who ever Emma thinks is the killer can't be.

I agree with Nevermindme. There are still far too many unanswered questions regarding Lola and Billy. Lola has lied about her alibi, why has Emma not realised this before now? and Billy had those pictures of Lucy which must have meant something.... we also know from Jay he helped to cover something up aside from assisting Ben on Good Friday. We still don't know the full story of how they got hold of her phone, Ben's excuse of finding it on the ground was clearly bull, So them helping Lola also fits into place. Further more, Jay bought cleaning stuff from the Minute Mart the morning after and he claimed it was for Ronnie. I'm betting it was more likely for Billy/Lola and he used the party as a cover.... so no one would suspect.
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On Good Friday itself Lola also made a catty remark to Lucy, "yous two had a fallin' out".

On Jane, I suspect she did see something from Masood's house. It's ideally placed to see anyone returning into Walford (if Lucy did drop Jake off at his), Ian's house (although how good her view would of been of Lauren at the door I'm not sure of, even in the unlikely event that's true). It's also close to the B&B, which was empty on the night.
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For me, three suspects:

Lee

DTC loves all things Carter as they are his baby. Having them heavily involved in the 30th anniversary as well as the main families, I think would appeal to him. Should he do it? No. Will he? He might.

They've gone to great pains to push Lee's temper, his disconnect from everything when he loses it and that he could kill if not stopped. He left the party for a while, he could have killed Lucy.

The only thing against that is that DTC has lost Timothy West (knowingly) and Sam Strike (I suspect unwillingly) and I don't know if he'd wish to lose another Carter in Lee.

Max

This would, ironically, be the biggest shock.

I say "ironically" as Max probably should he a huge suspect but is overlooked due to the popularity of the character and Jake Wood's position in the show's affections. As the biggest character in the immediate list of suspects (short of Ian, obviously), Max would have the most impact if he was unmasked and the unbelievable ripples that would be felt would leave us a very interesting aftermath.

He is the least of my three suspects but going from the show's perspective, it could well be him.

Jane

Her behaviour has been very, very odd in recent weeks and months.

Bear in mind that Ian and Jane's wedding is on the 19th of Feb and this is the reveal. If the description of the reveal of "upsetting" is accurate (bearing in mind that the blurbs for Stan implied he was the devil incarnate and Babe as a loving matriarch to throw viewers), what could be more upsetting than Ian finding out that the woman he is going to marry killed his daughter? As Tanya's best friend, Jane having killed Lucy will also have a massive impact on the Branning family and would be a huge shock.

My top suspect also because I want to see her hauled to a police car in handcuffs, in her wedding dress, screaming and shouting like a lunatic while faced with the cold looks of the rest of the neighbourhood she so proudly looks down upon.

Upsetting and hilarious at the same time.

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Given the fact that the person who killed Lucy doesn't know that he or she did it, I'm not sure how motive is relevant? It could have been anyone who had contact with her. I'm not sure how the current theories align with the initial press release. The person doesn't know they killed her (and I'm sure Emma's calling the wrong person) and it was WHAT killed Lucy and not WHO.
Still thinking it's Lee's PTSD.
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DS article on Last night's Twitter madness

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/fun/s2/eastenders/news/a618826/i-know-you-killed-lucy-eastenders-drama-provokes-hilarious-memes.html?utm_source=twt&utm_medium=snets&utm_campaign=twitter#~p01RGXxbJyOjoa
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