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| Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories | |
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| Mrs Peel | 2 Jan 2015, 16:30 Post #1761 |
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Jim Shelley's Review You need to read this, especially the very last part. I heard Emma say to Max "It wasn't there." But according to Shelley, she said "It wasn't Lauren." Anyone disagree? |
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| Forest11 | 2 Jan 2015, 16:42 Post #1762 |
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Just watched the scene again 100% sure it was wasn't there. |
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| ian | 2 Jan 2015, 16:45 Post #1763 |
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Interestingly enough, I heard 'it wasn't Lauren' the first time, but having re-watched the scene I'm certain Shelley's got it wrong. As usual.
Edited by ian, 2 Jan 2015, 16:45.
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| MrJames | 2 Jan 2015, 16:45 Post #1764 |
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Jim Shelley's articles are always filled with inaccuracies. Emma didn't mention Lauren. |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 16:54 Post #1765 |
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Just a quick thought on Denise: She went off in a huff just before Emma's meeting, but Kim was there when Denise walked out and so was Patrick. Just after Emma's meeting, Patrick had completely changed clothes and Kim seemed surprised that Patrick was "all dressed up". It seems pretty clear, from the information we've been presented with, that Denise was helping Patrick put his suit on whilst Emma was meeting whoever she was meeting. |
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| Dan | 2 Jan 2015, 17:04 Post #1766 |
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She said "there" and then Max said, "what do you mean, it wasn't there?". I think Jim Shelley misheard. I am so juvenile, I laughed at Nick "fingering" Ronnie and Phil going round to Dot's "arse". Emma may have been referring to something she saw on the video, that Max deleted the video or, less likely, her folder. |
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| Dan | 2 Jan 2015, 17:04 Post #1767 |
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Charlie wasn't driving the car either, Roxy was. |
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| MrJames | 2 Jan 2015, 17:06 Post #1768 |
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Yupp, I noticed that one too. |
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| Forest11 | 2 Jan 2015, 17:09 Post #1769 |
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Except she was clearly in the phone bleeping scene when Billy, Lola and Alexs who has been previously ruled out were not. |
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| Jamie Fowler | 2 Jan 2015, 17:14 Post #1770 |
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He probably didn't even watch. Just read twitter, pieced a few things together, chucked in a few 'depressing' comments and job done. Lazy journalism. |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 17:16 Post #1771 |
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Yes but that was after the meeting. She could have received the text but if she didn't meet Emma, then she didn't receive the text either. |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 17:52 Post #1772 |
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Also, after her meeting, Emma got to the pub whilst the wedding was still happening so she most likely went straight there. First of all, why would she go there if it was Lee who she'd just met? Why would she risk bumping into him on the way? But let's ignore that for a minute. If it was Lee who went to meet Emma then I'm not sure that the timing makes sense. You can see Lee clearing glasses in the background in the very last scene before Emma arrived for the meeting. If Lee was the one meeting Emma, not only would he have probably left the pub after the meeting was supposed to start (which would be a strange thing to do if you were desperately trying to save your own skin), he then didn't get back to the pub until after Emma got there even though he would have had a slight headstart on her. Does this make sense? Also, Lee entered the pub through a different door (and therefore presumably came from a different direction) than Emma did. Of course, Lee could have gone somewhere else in between but, I dunno, it doesn't ring true to me. He has pointed the finger at a couple of other characters, Billy and Lauren, but, from the information he had at those times, he actually had good reasons to be suspicious of them, and, crucially, was not lying on either of those occasions. Lee was happy to give a DNA sample as well. We can't rule him out completely but I really don't think it was him. |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 17:55 Post #1773 |
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And one small point I'd like to make about Lauren: If Jane is telling the truth about seeing Lauren then I think we can probably rule Lauren out. If Jane's lying about that then she probably did it, or perhaps is covering for another Beale. Either way, I don't think the killer can really be Lauren. Perhaps I am wrong here? I know the logic is sketchy. What do you guys think? What with JJ's pregnancy and all, seems unlikely to be her anyway.
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| Forest11 | 2 Jan 2015, 18:05 Post #1774 |
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I doubt its lee as it would be another massive story for Mick and Linda. How would they ever recover. |
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| NevermindMe | 2 Jan 2015, 18:07 Post #1775 |
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Billy and Lola are still ones to watch. She could easily have met Jay or Ben in the park who's negotiation was protecting a single family from prison to save children (Janet and Lexi) from going into care. |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 18:12 Post #1776 |
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lol. Very true. It would be a bit much. But Dom loves them Carters... You never know. I don't think it was Lee who met Emma, though. |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 18:14 Post #1777 |
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Another thought occurs... This one might be controversial but I'm gonna throw it out there anyway. Ben and Jay were getting the money, on Phil's orders, and then, when they realised the money was gone, they went to check Phil's other safes at the R&R and the Arches. We know that they actually did this, and it seems like a fair enough reason for them to not be back at the wedding in time. They were dressed up and presumably planning on going to the wedding, so why would they agree to meet Emma at that exact time? I'm not saying they, or either one of them individually, couldn't have met Emma during this time, they certainly could have, but I don't think it would make a great deal of sense if they had. |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 18:44 Post #1778 |
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And, yes, Emma definitely said "it wasn't there". Is this in reference to the video or something else? When she said that to Max, and then said "you know", to me it seemed like he was as clueless as we are, and had no idea what she was talking about, but, then again, she was dazed and said it to him without giving him any context. Maybe she wasn't talking about the video, but then what? Just thinking out loud here. If she was talking about the video, then perhaps we shouldn't be looking for something that's in the video and instead be thinking about what SHOULD HAVE BEEN in the video but wasn't? I can't think what it could be, to be honest. A car, perhaps? HOWEVER When Emma had her "eureka" moment, she left the pub and seemed to simply look at various houses around the square. The pictures she looked at in the file were also of houses. Whatever Emma noticed seems to possibly be related to the houses themselves??? Is there something wrong with one of the houses? Something amiss that we're not seeing? Whatever Emma sees here, it is likely an important clue. I count three pairs of houses that she looked at outside, and three pairs of houses that she looked at in the file. Someone with a better knowledge of EE is gonna have to help me here. WHAT EMMA SEES OUTSIDE 1. I think the B&B? 2. I think Ian's house and the house next to Ian's? 3. I think Roxy's house and the house next to Roxy's? WHAT EMMA SEES IN THE FILE 1. Roxy's house again? 2. Really not sure at all. She might even look at two different pictures here. I just can't tell. 3. I think maybe Ian's house again? I'm not sure. Can anyone confirm or correct any of the above? |
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| steve is awesome | 2 Jan 2015, 18:55 Post #1779 |
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I would certainly like more information on why Billy was acting so suspiciously with those photos of Lucy. It seems that Billy is out of the running now but his bizarre actions still need to be explained, big time. They can't have a character act so suspiciously and then pretend it never happened. |
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| NevermindMe | 2 Jan 2015, 19:12 Post #1780 |
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This is my point. Billy isn't necessarily out of the frame. So Emma nay have phoned him in the morning, but it wasn't him she text later on. There's nothing to say Emma was surprised by who turned up at the park. She may have made arrangements with one person who sent someone on their behalf hence the text reading "I can't keep THE secret". Watch this space. |
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