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| Who Killed Lucy?; All the theories | |
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| CivvyStreet | 3 Jan 2015, 16:25 Post #1921 |
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Nice one, I couldn't capture this but that does show the car has moved. BUT... would Emma know what cars were parked there on the night of the murder? Is there cctv on the square? The photos she had of Ian's, the b&b and no27 would surely have been taken the next day when the investigation started? My head hurts too! Edited by CivvyStreet, 3 Jan 2015, 16:26.
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| Fehnder | 3 Jan 2015, 16:28 Post #1922 |
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She may be assuming based on Jane parking there when she's been on the square? Also, with Jane saying she was at masoods, masood parks in front of his own house? |
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| Fehnder | 3 Jan 2015, 16:30 Post #1923 |
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Can someone find the part where Lucy and Max were kissing (where abi took the pic) at the Walford flats? That pic appears to be significant. Are there any cars in the car park? |
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| Torrie | 3 Jan 2015, 16:31 Post #1924 |
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How likely is it that Emma would have mobile numbers for half the square? Would she be able to just call Lee or Jay or Whitney or basically anyone outside the Branning and Beale clans. Even Ben would be a push. I really don't want it to be, but the one I've had a feeling about from the start is Peter. The only thing that pushes me away from that is it being too obvious because of how often Ian has thrown in his face that he preferred his sister. It would be so tragic though, his own twin, and not really intended but with their family history a definite factor - the pressure of picking up the pieces after Ian pushing Lucy to drugs, Peter ending up a dealer to try to protect her, maybe a tiny spark of resentment, etc etc. Placid easy-going Peter finally pushed too far ... And Jane would try to cover for him because she would just get it, how that family could twist you up. |
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| Mr Carter | 3 Jan 2015, 16:33 Post #1925 |
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Why were there some droplets of her blood at Jake's place? I still think she was killed there and not at the square and whoever the culprit was called someone from the flat, to which then they came with the car.
Edited by Mr Carter, 3 Jan 2015, 16:34.
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| North Korea | 3 Jan 2015, 16:33 Post #1926 |
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This one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqPeWLX_w70 |
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| Fehnder | 3 Jan 2015, 16:36 Post #1927 |
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In terms of blood at the flat, we know Lucy took jake there, so it's not overly suspicious in the sense that we know she was there. And thank you for the video I'm useless with YouTube!
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| WalfordE20 | 3 Jan 2015, 16:38 Post #1928 |
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This is the only wide view we got. Abi's photo was taken from directly opposite them. ![]() |
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| david | 3 Jan 2015, 16:41 Post #1929 |
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Lee, Cindy and Ian all left voice messages on Lucy’s phone after she died. We heard them as Lucy lay dead at the end of the Good Friday episode. I think that suggests that none of them was the killer. It is just possible that the killer left a message to try to divert suspicion, but they probably knew where the phone actually was. Jane’s car is a Blue Micra, FH 54 FGP. As has been mentioned above, it was parked behind Ian’s silver estate, outside the Masoods, on Good Friday. Masood parks his silver estate at the side of the B&B. Ian’s car can be seen on Fatboy’s video, but not Jane’s. This would have been filmed after Ian returned from Rainie and Jay had returned from seeing Ben. When Emma looked around the square on the 30th Dec. episode, Ian and Masood’s cars can be seen in their normal places and you can just see the top of a car behind Ian’s where Jane usually parks her car. Emma realised that Jane’s car was normally there. but was not there when Fatboy’s video was shot, even though Jane claimed to be at Masood’s house. There were also some dark pictures in Emma’s evidence folder which may have been from the Walford Common cam and she could have identified one of the cars as being the same make as Jane’s. I think the evidence is pointing to Jane, although I’m not sure how Ben and Jay got involved. Edited by david, 3 Jan 2015, 16:43.
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| North Korea | 3 Jan 2015, 16:51 Post #1930 |
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Ben and Jay robbed an off licence store near Walford Common where Lucy was found - I think they saw something. |
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| SlingYourHook | 3 Jan 2015, 16:52 Post #1931 |
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It has to be a Beale or Branning for this storyline to have any sort of impact and fulfillment. I definitely think it is a coverup - Jane and Max know a lot more then they are letting on. I highly doubt it is Denise, Pam, Les, Whitney, Lee, Jay or Ben. And Emma would only really have Denise's number out of these people. As far as I know, Cindy, Lee and Ian left her voicemails which were playing after her death and she responded to a message from someone before then so I don't think it's them and I want to rule them out? This leaves Peter, Lauren, Abi, Max and Jane.
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| Dan | 3 Jan 2015, 16:57 Post #1932 |
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She could have said "you killed her" but "it's still murder" leaves the possibility open that Emma wasn't speaking to the killer but someone covering for the killer. Whoever Emma was talking to attempted to negotiate as well which is a strange thing to do with an ex police officer if they'd killed Lucy. |
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| Forest11 | 3 Jan 2015, 16:59 Post #1933 |
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She had Whitney's. Lauren or Lee gave it to her when they discovered she accessed the Social media page. |
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| SlingYourHook | 3 Jan 2015, 17:03 Post #1934 |
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Oops. I forgot about that (whodunnits always drive me mad!) but I still highly doubt it's Whitney. |
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| Dan | 3 Jan 2015, 17:06 Post #1935 |
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Jake helped Lucy build a website a few days before her death and Lucy went round to his flat. She could have cut herself or continued to bleed slightly from the head wound she received at the car lot. Or the killer may have been seen by Jake, lifted Aleks' keys at the party and went round there to make sure Jake was still out with some of Lucy's blood still on them. I wonder if we'll see Jake again for the reveal. Edited by Dan, 3 Jan 2015, 17:08.
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| Torrie | 3 Jan 2015, 17:10 Post #1936 |
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Would a cop say murder though, if it wasn't? I take your point about general conversation, but if that was the case she could have said: "It's still wrong ..." Or even: "You still have to go to the police ..." Or something else to convey that this explanation, whether it's the killer or someone covering, doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things. I just don't think a cop of all people would specifically say murder unless they meant it. The whole meeting her in the first place and presumably trying to explain makes me think it's someone who sees her as a person in their life, rather than just in her former official role. Which again brings me back to a Branning or a Beale. It also slightly inclines me towards someone younger, although probably with someone else now covering for them - so Peter or Cindy with Jane helping, or Abi or Lauren with Max helping. Except I don't really think it's Cindy or Lauren. Less certain about Abi. Hoping it's not Peter. |
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| SlingYourHook | 3 Jan 2015, 17:19 Post #1937 |
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I also thought the negotiation part seems like the work of an older person on behalf of the murderer, a person they would go to great lengths to protect. |
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| Dave Sullivan | 3 Jan 2015, 17:21 Post #1938 |
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It clear that the Ian and Jane wedding in terms of its quick set-up is important in the whole Lucy arc also I don't believe the relationship is going to survive at all even if Jane hasn't killed Lucy. There's a reason they've strengthened the Carol and Ian connection, reintroduced Martin and added the hints that Ian still cares for Denise and I will be very surprised if Ian doesn't have another breakdown after the reveal. |
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| Fehnder | 3 Jan 2015, 17:38 Post #1939 |
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Maybe someone needs to check the episodes from lucys death to Jane taking bobby and see when her car reappears? If it's still gone when Lucy is discovered etc it wouldn't be in the house pics in emmas files (although I'm sure ians isn't either) Jane giving herself an alibi by giving Lauren one is only relevant if she wasn't actually at masoods. I read that Spoiler: click to toggle I hope it's not peter only because I don't buy his reaction had he been involved in any way moving lucys body. Im not sure how the general public would react to it being Ian on grounds of mental health. Perhaps it was Jane with help from jay/Ben. But then with Laurie Brett saying the killer doesn't leave the square? For that the Ian theory would fit. Edited by Fehnder, 3 Jan 2015, 17:43.
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| Torrie | 3 Jan 2015, 17:39 Post #1940 |
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Possible. But would a straight-thinking adult really think that continuing to hide the truth wouldn't just make it worse? I could understand that course of action from an adult who was the killer, because they may be more desperate and not thinking clearly. I guess I could understand a parent not thinking straight to protect a child, but both Jane and Max also had a connection to Lucy which is bound to cloud their loyalty - obviously Jane more than Max, who I think would still put his own daughters first. Obviously the younger characters in the frame here are adults too, but I could see them trying to talk their way out of it. Although I guess an older character who knows Emma could play to her 'niceness'. I don't mean in a conniving way, but just knowing that she does seem to be a good person and hoping that when she knows the circumstances, she won't want another life ruined |
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