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What is Shabnam's secret?
Topic Started: 6 Jan 2015, 21:08 (7,940 Views)
Mrs Peel
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Ender89
30 Jan 2015, 00:01
Jade
29 Jan 2015, 22:30
I really couldn't give a damn. Shabs was interesting when she first rejoined and I thought her secret was going to be something new like a eating disorder.
Last week she thought she lost the article but then she found it started grinning like an idiot before hugging it like she was proud. I find her incredibly bland and dreary. Zainab did the loveable bitchy character who was a bigot far better than Shab does.
Stacey and Kush could do with better material, better characters and actors. No chemistry with Shabs and Kush whatsoever. It was like watching Grange Hill aka Rack all over again just painful.
Eh? When she thought Kush was rooting through her bag she had only one thing on her mind - That article of her baby. I think you saw a different scene than most because at no point was she grinning at or hugging the article like she was proud of what she had done, you just needed to see today's episode to see how devastated she truly feels about that. I don't think Zainab was ever a bigot like Shabnam markII was when she first appeared - she was homophobic yes, but she had overcome that towards the end. With Shabnam, initially, she made a few bigoted comments but she has come on leaps and bounds since then - and if someone like Jim can do it in the latter period of his life I'm sure she can. It's interesting because she admits she's a hypocrite and she doesn't deserve to wear the hijab but is still trying to fool herself into beleiveing she is "pure" and "righteous". Hoping there's more to this baby plot than it seems from tomorrow's episode.
Shabnam panicked when Kush returned her handbag, which she left in the Vic. He made some lame joke about her handbag being messier than his mum's and she went ballistic, thinking he may have found the article. She wasn't happy or proud when she found it, she was relieved.

Shabnam left in 2009 to work in an orphanage in Pakistan. Zainab visited her there in 2011 with Yusef and the next year Syed visited her there. If the baby were born in London, then I would think she returned to London between 2009 and early 2011, pregnant, in order to have the child in London. Remember Zainab left for Pakistan in 2013 and has been there ever since, and there's no way she wouldn't have kept close tabs on Shabnam after she left. Also, Masood visited in order to bring Kamal back for awhile, and he returned with Syed later that year. Her child must have been born between 2009 and 2011.
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Mrs Peel
30 Jan 2015, 01:25
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30 Jan 2015, 00:01

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Shabnam panicked when Kush returned her handbag, which she left in the Vic. He made some lame joke about her handbag being messier than his mum's and she went ballistic, thinking he may have found the article. She wasn't happy or proud when she found it, she was relieved.

Shabnam left in 2009 to work in an orphanage in Pakistan. Zainab visited her there in 2011 with Yusef and the next year Syed visited her there. If the baby were born in London, then I would think she returned to London between 2009 and early 2011, pregnant, in order to have the child in London. Remember Zainab left for Pakistan in 2013 and has been there ever since, and there's no way she wouldn't have kept close tabs on Shabnam after she left. Also, Masood visited in order to bring Kamal back for awhile, and he returned with Syed later that year. Her child must have been born between 2009 and 2011.
Good post :)

Just a few points: Shabnam left in October 2008, so it's even more possible that the baby was born in the UK in early 2009. While the original Shabnam may have said that she was moving straight out to Pakistan, but what the orignal Shabnam said and did were two completely different things ;)

Another point is that Zainab lives in Birmingham with Christian, Syed, Amira and Yasmin IIRC? Or at least she went to live with them when she initially left in 2013, before moving to Pakistan? :)
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MrJames
29 Jan 2015, 23:58
Ross
29 Jan 2015, 23:50
Can you imagine if Shabnam's next bombshell is that the father of her baby was Sean... :lol:
Not sure if or how this contradicts anything that happened back in 2008, but I am so up for this if it slots in logistically.
Sean would have been Roxy from April 2008 so unless he cheated.
Maybe it's Dean. They may have met up of screen sometime in 2008 after he left. I suspect the father is white and non-Muslim after her comments to Carol.
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30 Jan 2015, 08:26
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Good post :)

Just a few points: Shabnam left in October 2008, so it's even more possible that the baby was born in the UK in early 2009. While the original Shabnam may have said that she was moving straight out to Pakistan, but what the orignal Shabnam said and did were two completely different things ;)

Shabnam could very well have had the baby in England. If she got pregnant in Pakistan, in fact, that's exactly what she would have done, and could actually have returned secretly to the UK to have her baby, without her parents' knowledge. London is a big enough city that if she managed to stay well away from Walford, she could have had her child without her parents' knowledge, and then returned to Pakistan.

IIRC, during the first part of her first year in Pakistan, the Masoods always referred to her as "travelling", as if she were hiking about the area, so contact was probably vague. In hindsight, that could have been her cover.

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Another point is that Zainab lives in Birmingham with Christian, Syed, Amira and Yasmin IIRC? Or at least she went to live with them when she initially left in 2013, before moving to Pakistan? :)


Actually, Zainab went directly to Pakistan when she left Masood. She doesn't live in Birmingham. She's still in Pakistan. At least she was when Masood travelled there in 2013 to collect Kamil for a lengthy visit, and it was Syed who travelled back with Kamil when he returned. Zainab has always been in Pakistan.
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30 Jan 2015, 08:42
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Sean would have been Roxy from April 2008 so unless he cheated.
Maybe it's Dean. They may have met up of screen sometime in 2008 after he left. I suspect the father is white and non-Muslim after her comments to Carol.
My guess, and it's only a guess, is that Shabnam had an affair with a married man in Pakistan, got pregnant, and returned to the UK to have her baby.

Either he was married, or perhaps, not of her faith, but for some reason, she couldn't marry him. Remember, she created an obstacle with Kush's interest in her because he was a secular Muslim and of Iranian descent.

Go figure.
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She did say "this was the first time" didn't she? Or did I miss something and that was referring to something else?
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30 Jan 2015, 12:37
She did say "this was the first time" didn't she? Or did I miss something and that was referring to something else?
It sounded ambiguous to me, Shabnam's statement about 'the first time' in combination with the newspaper article, as if she was referring to a series of loss?
Surrogacy crossed my mind but that would not be compatible with the abandoned baby.
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30 Jan 2015, 11:27
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My guess, and it's only a guess, is that Shabnam had an affair with a married man in Pakistan, got pregnant, and returned to the UK to have her baby.

Either he was married, or perhaps, not of her faith, but for some reason, she couldn't marry him. Remember, she created an obstacle with Kush's interest in her because he was a secular Muslim and of Iranian descent.

Go figure.
That doesn't seem to fit with tonight's scene through as she says she met him in a club. I cant imagine there being loads of clubs in Pakistan.
She wasn't staying that far away from Walfrod through if she abandoned her in Bethnal Green its only 10 minutes drive away from Bow where Walford is supposed to be.
If she did fall pregnant could she have given birth the night the night of Lucy's death and will therefore be seen in the flashback episode.
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Rakhee revealed on the Asian Network this morning that there is a second part of the secret tonight. Exciting.
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30 Jan 2015, 18:32
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30 Jan 2015, 12:37
She did say "this was the first time" didn't she? Or did I miss something and that was referring to something else?
It sounded ambiguous to me, Shabnam's statement about 'the first time' in combination with the newspaper article, as if she was referring to a series of loss?
Surrogacy crossed my mind but that would not be compatible with the abandoned baby.
I considered that maybe she was an escort/prostitute but who knows.
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OH MY GOD! Dean is the father of Shabnam's baby! :O :shock: :O2
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I haven't watched tonight's episode yet, but I thought yesterday Dean could be the father but hoped he wasn't. I wish Shabnam's storyline wasn't linked the rape storyline, and I hope they explain that they met after he left the show.
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@soapscoop: EastEnders star Rakhee Thakrar: 'Shabnam and Dean twist is great' http://t.co/jo45bAUZla #soapnews
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30 Jan 2015, 22:34
@soapscoop: EastEnders star Rakhee Thakrar: 'Shabnam and Dean twist is great' http://t.co/jo45bAUZla #soapnews
At least someone thinks so.

How long until Shabnam finds out Roya's adoptive parents have been killed in a car crash and befriends the child's guardian to get close to her daughter?
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LOL ^^^

Is there still more to come just because this hasn't answered the question of where Shabnam is getting her money from..
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Seems as though she was telling the truth about her inheritance. But I'm willing for there to be another twist in the tale.
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Do you think if the original Shabnam had stayed in 2008 this would have been her storyline and we would have seen it happen on screen? I doubt Dean would have been made the dad back then but it makes me wonder if DTC is picking up on unfinished business.
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31 Jan 2015, 10:45
Do you think if the original Shabnam had stayed in 2008 this would have been her storyline and we would have seen it happen on screen? I doubt Dean would have been made the dad back then but it makes me wonder if DTC is picking up on unfinished business.
Quite possible as I have heard rumours the first actress left because of storyline disagreements.
Maybe this would have been the Masood's first big storyline but instead it was dropped and replaced by Syed and Christian
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