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Jay and Lola
Topic Started: 19 Mar 2015, 16:05 (9,892 Views)
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Londongirl89
19 Jul 2015, 01:06
MrSunshine
19 Jul 2015, 01:02
I don't see why Jay and Abi split up just to give Ben more to do. Sacrificing a strong couple to then give Jamie nothing to do is shit. They clearly rate Ben more than Jay. Understandable given who Ben's parents are but Jamie's been part of the show for nearly 9 years...and for what? He needs something.
I would quite like to see Abi and Jay get back together, now that they are older. I doubt that it will happen.

Did Jay break up with Abi, because of his feelings for Lola? I can't remember.
I believe so, only for Lola to reject him.
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MrSunshine
19 Jul 2015, 03:10
Londongirl89
19 Jul 2015, 01:06

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I believe so, only for Lola to reject him.
Thanks.
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19 Jul 2015, 03:10
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19 Jul 2015, 01:06

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I believe so, only for Lola to reject him.
That was frustrating.

I really have a bad feeling about Lola's exit that we're going to get the news Borthwick is leaving as well.
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If Jay was to leave, that means they must have axed Jamie Borthwick because considering how he talk about the show, he clearly loves being there and I struggle to think he'd choose to leave

Then again, I could be wrong. I certainly wouldn't blame him for leaving after they've given him jack shit to do for 3 and a half years.
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When is Lola, due to leave?
Edited by Londongirl89, 19 Jul 2015, 10:29.
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Jay and Abi didn't work because Jay is wise beyond his years whereas Abi still has the sensibilities of a 12 year old. He was too mature for her and that was why he ended it, because they'd grown apart.
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MrSunshine
19 Jul 2015, 01:02
I don't see why Jay and Abi split up just to give Ben more to do. Sacrificing a strong couple to then give Jamie nothing to do is shit. They clearly rate Ben more than Jay. Understandable given who Ben's parents are but Jamie's been part of the show for nearly 9 years...and for what? He needs something.
The big mistake they made with Jay was introducing Dexter. Dexter was an afterthought of Lorraine Newman's in order to expand upon her ultimate creation of Ava and all things Ava. I'm convinced that Ava, Sam and Dexter were originially meant to be the elusive "new family" she promised. When they introduced Dexter, I think he "role-shared" with Jay, resulting in Jay being backburnered a lot. It was always on the cards for animosity between Abi and Lola over Jay, but suddenly, Lola was mildly interested in Dexter. When she disappeared with Lexie, it was Dexter, only recently arrived, who helped in the search for her, not Jay.

When Newman realised that the Hartmans were duds, she then went for a Lola-Peter relationship, which I actually liked, with Jay attempting to sway Lola, but nothing came of that. DTC nixed the Lola-Peter relationship, in favour of pairing him with Lauren. :unsure:

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Jay dumped Abi because she was convinced that he had feelings for Lola.

Jay and Abi were on a hiding to nothing as a couple. He paid lip service to her plans for university. It would have suited him fine, had she thrown aside her plans, which she seems to have done now. His original plan was to follow her to Bolton (not her first choice) and live with her there. He'd have grown to resent her and her uni friends as much as Martin was made to feel inferior by Sonia and her arty-farty friends.
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I'd be so excited by this if Lola weren't leaving, literally the two best young characters on the show being paired up. If Jay is leaving, I guess a happy enough ending for him would be going off to start a new life with Lola and Lexi.

But then, I keep coming back to my theory that Lola's going to die. It makes the most sense. She has no money, no where to go and all her family are in Walford. Her daughter, Lexi, is the granddaughter of a returning original and I can't imagine they'd want Lexi to go just as Kathy returns. Lola's death would have a massive impact. And Jay doesn't exactly have a good track record for people he loves remaining alive.
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19 Jul 2015, 11:15
I'd be so excited by this if Lola weren't leaving, literally the two best young characters on the show being paired up. If Jay is leaving, I guess a happy enough ending for him would be going off to start a new life with Lola and Lexi.

But then, I keep coming back to my theory that Lola's going to die. It makes the most sense. She has no money, no where to go and all her family are in Walford. Her daughter, Lexi, is the granddaughter of a returning original and I can't imagine they'd want Lexi to go just as Kathy returns. Lola's death would have a massive impact. And Jay doesn't exactly have a good track record for people he loves remaining alive.
They have said that, the door has been left open for Danielle to return. Unless that was a lie.

I don't think that Jay will leave with Lola. I can't see DTC axing Jamie and I don't think that Jamie has quit.
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I don’t think Jay really ever took Abi’s ambition seriously. He was supportive, yes, but a part of him hoped she’d grow out of it and just get a job serving pints or cleaning tables. So when Abi was genuinely started to look at Universities, and Peter was encouraging (pressuring?) Lola to go back to college, the two of them connected. If they do start up a relationship before she goes, then it’ll be interested to see how the likes of Ben, Phil and Billy react. And I think they could have been a good match, if Lola was sticking around.

But since she’s not, I think Jay and Abi could work again in the future. As long as they develop her character past being a spoiled brat, that is. When she finds out about Ben, and her only remaining family (Max, Carol, even Liam) have gone, I’m hoping they’ll make her more independent somehow. Then, I think, Jay and Abi could make a proper go of it. Especially since Jamie and Lorna have been on the show for years now and I don’t see either of them leaving by choice.
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Lola dying would make the most sense. I can't imagine Phil just letting Lexi leave Walford, and Lola wouldn't leave without her. It would be tragic for her die just after she and Jay finally get together after years of will they/won't they, plus it fits in with everyone Jay loves leaving him. The best part about it would be that Borthwick would get some good stuff to play and I have no doubt he would knock it out of the park.
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Londongirl89
19 Jul 2015, 11:20
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19 Jul 2015, 11:15
I can't see DTC axing Jamie


To be fair people would have said that of Lola a couple of months back. And she's a Mitchell by blood.
Edited by MuteBanana, 19 Jul 2015, 14:15.
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Londongirl89
19 Jul 2015, 11:20
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19 Jul 2015, 11:15
I don't think that Jay will leave with Lola. I can't see DTC axing Jamie
To be fair people would have said the same about Lola a couple of months back.
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Right I'm stumped by this quoting business today. I give up.
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Speaking of Lola and Lexie, you have to mention Ben's totally ignoring Lexie completely, especially considering the effort TPTB are putting into emphasizing blood relations over any sort of adopted or legal parent-child relationship.

We've had Mick and Dean re-connect with their birth father, only to have Dean completely bin his late "legal" father from Dad-status and begin referring to a man he's known five minutes as "Dad." Mick, on the other hand, will only ever consider Stan as his father, as he should. Now we've got Sharon referring to Den and Angie by their names and referring to Carol Hanley and Gavin Sullivan as her "real mum and dad," when they were only the incubator and the sperm donor who brought her about.

Ben is Lexie's birth father. Phil acknowledges that and fought tooth and nail for the child, but Ben has relinquished all responsibility, not even attempting to get to know the child on a parental basis. I know he's extremely young, and extremely young teenaged dads (Buster and Gavin) don't seem to want/aren't able to assume responsibility until the children in question have reached adulthood.

Ben being on the same Square as his daughter and not even giving a hoot is weird, even by EastEnders' standards.
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What was Dom smoking the night he decided to axe Lola?! Her and Jay are a power couple in the making. However, if they were to kill Lola off and explore the repercussions of her death, I won't mind so much. But if she just moves away, I'll feel like... why the fuck did you do this, Dominic? Naughty boy.
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I just don't see what was so offensive about her character. Something must have happened with the actress.
Edited by MuteBanana, 19 Jul 2015, 23:15.
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She was part of a period where DTC wasn't creatively involved with the show - that's the whole reason behind the axing.

Her time would have been up sooner but he had to naturally move Peter onto Lauren.
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I don't think we can say outright why Lola has been written out. It may not of been an axing at all but a story led decision that led to Lola's exiting.
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