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Stacey spoiler
Topic Started: 27 Jun 2015, 00:00 (28,233 Views)
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Plus it would be a better story for a couple the audience has grown a real investment in, it might be a bit too early for Martin and Stacey to have such a story together. Maybe in a few years?
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Ya'll were right: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a655515/eastenders-spoilers-staceys-behaviour-becomes-a-cause-for-concern.html?utm_source=twt&utm_medium=snets&utm_campaign=twitter#~ph2CMriQfVBx5q

Kind of gives me goosebumps. History repeating itself.
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a655515/eastenders-spoilers-staceys-behaviour-becomes-a-cause-for-concern.html#~ph2SaNtzjyVcR7

Looks like she is having an episode after all. Is it harsh to say I'm relieved?
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And all this key drama looks amazing: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a655512/eastenders-spoilers-stacey-branning-to-search-for-answers-about-key.html?utm_source=twt&utm_medium=snets&utm_campaign=twitter#~ph2CNCGyvNq4mF

Extremely excited for this.
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Christina
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Me too. It looks great.
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Mr Carter
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Very excited too see this. I'm pleased they do have an actual plan with Stacey and Martin in place and it's not just about her betraying her close friend. Today highlighted how she is feeling isolated and depressed (which is what Bipolar does) and is behaving erratically to make herself feel better.
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Over the moon they are exploring this. It'll be tough to watch. Remember trying to get through the scenes in 2009 with Stacey acting erratically? It's great that we will see how her disorder affects her, and hopefully all the Kush angst has been subtly building up to this, because the fact that it wasn't announced, and instead as an audience we could see Stacey's struggles like we would see someone's in real life, with no context, is genius.
"I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver
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Ross
29 Jun 2015, 22:22
I would love to see a cot death story with Stacey and Martin. Heartwrenching, but it would cement them as a power couple for sure. Ultimately though, I think it would have to make them stronger, as it does in most cases in real life.
Actually you will find in many cases where a baby dies its highly likely the couple will split up. Your more likely to split if that happens than pretty much anything else. Even things like infidelity etc. Purely because the grief is so strong and high.
Most cases in real life sadly it will actually move them apart as they tie the partner in with the death as it reminds them etc. Guilt over the feeling as a parent you shouldn't die before your child etc. But it is a well known thing it actually pulls even sometimes the most loving couples apart which Martin and Sonia are not.

Really hope they try not to excuse everything under an episode. It was done believably before with justice. Mental health stories deserve to be done the right way. Before when she was sleeping around that was very believable. Fixation on one man who is with your best mate is not linked at all. Unhealthy relationships sure but not like that. Unless she has other mental health issues which would make her like that in the way Shirley was in which case she is dangerous which I do not think she is.
Edited by Jade, 30 Jun 2015, 01:16.
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29 Jun 2015, 22:33
The ramifications of such a story span so far as well. Other than the initial few months, you have all that loss at the core of this couple. The good days and the bad days. The first birthday. Every birthday. What happens if Stacey ends up expecting again? It's not a beginning-middle-end story but a loss that stays with the character forever. Soaps have the unique opportunity to take something like SIDS, and show the ramifications and effects of that over years. To show the struggle, but also show how one can deal with that.

I'm not sure they will go down this route with Baby Fowler, but I do think it's a story a soap needs to tackle properly.
Or they could do this exact same storyline but with Lauren's baby.
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30 Jun 2015, 03:31
The Other Slater Cousin
29 Jun 2015, 22:33
The ramifications of such a story span so far as well. Other than the initial few months, you have all that loss at the core of this couple. The good days and the bad days. The first birthday. Every birthday. What happens if Stacey ends up expecting again? It's not a beginning-middle-end story but a loss that stays with the character forever. Soaps have the unique opportunity to take something like SIDS, and show the ramifications and effects of that over years. To show the struggle, but also show how one can deal with that.

I'm not sure they will go down this route with Baby Fowler, but I do think it's a story a soap needs to tackle properly.
Or they could do this exact same storyline but with Lauren's baby.
Well yes, I didn't say it was exclusive to Stacey and Martin. Any character that is played by a capable actor in any soap could take it on as long as it was an honest representation of grieving for people out there who are going through it. I think we get a bit lost in the sensationalism at times and forget what a powerful and unique platform soaps are.
"I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver
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Exciting stuff, not that i'm excusing Stacey's behaviour with Kush, they are both in the wrong and he wants his cake and to eat it with two girls on the go, it all seems a culmination of things we're seeing currently that are leading up to Stacey having another Bipolar episode. I am glad and relieved to see this being confirmed to see them re-exploring her mental health issues again and no doubt Lacey Turner will be amazing as usual, this is all end game and I suspect in the long run she'll end up with Martin, but the writers have obviously put obstacles in the way first.
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There is hope! Honestly, I can't tell you how pleased I am that Stacey's behaviour hasn't just been character regression and she's actually struggling with her health. Has this storyline just been saved?
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The Kush angle still stinks no mater which way we look at it but at least we now know there are other implications in her life making her think and act erratically.
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30 Jun 2015, 13:49
There is hope! Honestly, I can't tell you how pleased I am that Stacey's behaviour hasn't just been character regression and she's actually struggling with her health. Has this storyline just been saved?
Kush's side of the story is still completely underdeveloped and one dimensional, so I'd say there's still a big problem with this storyline.
Edited by The Other Slater Cousin, 30 Jun 2015, 15:32.
"I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver
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Well I'm glad that her bipolar will be revisited. It's a shame that Stacey is really unpopular on social media.
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Social media is where Joey Branning and Tyler Moon were popular, and everyone loved Lauren and Joey's relationship. We needn't worry about their opinions.
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Ender89
28 Jun 2015, 03:13
Interesting. It certainly looks like Jean knows more about the key than she is letting on.

As for the dress, it looks like someone stitched lingerie on top of a normal dress. Nice figure though ;)
The dress wasn't chosen because it has a cutout that would, say, handily display anything one had hanging around one's neck, was it? Like maybe a key?

With regards to the Bipolar Disorder storyline, I'm not happy for it to be the excuse for Stacey's suddenly not being able to live without Kush. Based on my experiences with friends and family members who are affected, I don't believe that's a realistic behavior to be linked with the disorder. As such, it does a disservice to real people who do have it. [edit_reason]Added in missing word[/edit_reason]
Edited by Lara, 1 Jul 2015, 04:47.
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Lara
1 Jul 2015, 04:45
Ender89
28 Jun 2015, 03:13
Interesting. It certainly looks like Jean knows more about the key than she is letting on.

As for the dress, it looks like someone stitched lingerie on top of a normal dress. Nice figure though ;)
The dress wasn't chosen because it has a cutout that would, say, handily display anything one had hanging around one's neck, was it? Like maybe a key?

With regards to the Bipolar Disorder storyline, I'm not happy for it to be the excuse for Stacey's suddenly not being able to live without Kush. Based on my experiences with friends and family members who are affected, I don't believe that's a realistic behavior to be linked with the disorder. As such, it does a disservice to real people who do have it.
Exactly. Stacey wasn't behaving in a very nice way just before she had her episode when she was sectioned. However it was very realistic and as such understandable. As a therapist one thing I do hate is when soaps in particular use mental illness to explain everything away then actually putting the research in. I was not overly happy they made it look like a get out of jail free clause with Stacey or how they use it now this isn't helpful to those affected or the stigma which surrounds it. To say it explains all over her behaviour just saddens me its not the case. Mental health charities love anything which highlights it as its better than nothing but I actually feel at times can be even damaging. Especially hard when I think of how good it was done last time.
Stacey is behaving in a really out of line way. She is responsible for that. She is no more an angel in this than Kush no matter how much they want to spin it. It seems from now on she can do what she wants and they can use this excuse. Not helpful at all.
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I don't think the show is trying to excuse her actions by using Bipolar as an excuse or make us feel empathy for her about what she is doing to Shabnam at all. We all know Shabnam is clearly the victim here and EE highlights that very much so. I think it's two things making her act out of order - her loneliness and isolation in life as well as her Bipolar getting out of control. Stacey still has a conscience as we saw her apologising to Shabnam at the start of yesterday's episode but she's still conflicted regarding Kush, which is why she told him that it's not fair on her and certainly not fair on Shabnam. The Bipolar story is complicated because not everyone acts the same way we know because every person reacts to things in different ways with the disorder. Next week it seems the illness resurfaces again but Kush is nowhere in sight and opens up to Martin about it so I don't think the show really wants to associate her illness with running after a soon-to-be married man. That side of it is mostly Stacey Slater.
Edited by Mr Carter, 1 Jul 2015, 14:05.
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Ender89
1 Jul 2015, 13:13
I don't think the show is trying to excuse her actions by using Bipolar as an excuse or make us feel empathy for her about what she is doing to Shabnam at all. We all know Shabnam is clearly the victim here and EE highlights that very much so. I think it's two things making her act out order - her loneliness and isolation in life as well as her Bipolar getting out of control. Stacey still has a conscience as we saw her apologising to Shabnam at the start of yesterday's episode but she's still conflicted regarding Kush, which is why she told him that it's not fair on her and certainly not fair on Shabnam. The Bipolar story is complicated because not everyone acts the same way we know because every person reacts to things in different ways with the disorder. Next week it seems the illness resurfaces again but Kush is nowhere in sight and opens up to Martin about it so I don't think the show really wants to associate her illness with running after a soon-to-be married man. That side of it is mostly Stacey Slater.
I hope you're right. I see a lot of fans saying things along the lines of "thank goodness they're going with the Bipolar angle to explain why Stacey's seemed to regress so much lately", and I haven't really noticed anything so far that would indicate a regression of the character except the way she's behaved in going after Kush, so it seems that a lot of fans would like the Kush angle to be explained by her disorder.

So I hope the show doesn't go there, even if it means that Stacey has just plain behaved badly with no excuse (except loneliness, which is kind of a weak excuse, but she's human).
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