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| Tweet Topic Started: 27 Jun 2015, 19:22 (9,998 Views) | |
| Sey | 28 Jun 2015, 23:04 Post #61 |
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Don't be foolish Jade, he probably doesn't know what the word deployed means, the dippy gobshite
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| Sey | 28 Jun 2015, 23:05 Post #62 |
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Very true that's a good beginning. However I believe he should actually be able to act, that would be an even better beginning... 8-O |
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| Jade | 28 Jun 2015, 23:31 Post #63 |
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Most of us sadly wil suffer from a mental illness at sometime in our lives. I have been depressed many years ago now. Could I do a character on EE justice in such a storyline? No because I can not act sort of like Danny boy. But they got a good excuse why he can be in the square now since the previous excuses were piss poor. Even Ava was occasionally seen at work. Edited by Jade, 28 Jun 2015, 23:32.
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Your approval is neither desired nor required. Julia Smith "We decided to go for a realistic, fairly outspoken type of drama which could encompass stories about homosexuality, rape, unemployment, racial prejudice, etc., in a believable context. Above all, we wanted realism". | |
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| BigApe | 28 Jun 2015, 23:41 Post #64 |
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I've always been a bit confused about the posting of soldiers as up until recently I had the age old view that all soldiers except high ranking ones live on bases. I suppose Lee could be considered an army reserve right now? |
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| Jade | 28 Jun 2015, 23:44 Post #65 |
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He is not a reservist, he is on active service and he could literally just before he was supposed to be deployed abroad apparently could get out of it because Whitney didn't want him to go. There is hardly anything that gets you out of that. It is not the sort of job just not turn up for. Most live onbase while on duty as the housing can be cheap or free. But if he lives close enough as long as he is not in active training or work he can live off base. But he has been away too long to be believable. When your deployed there isn't a choice. He works less then Ava in a career which really is full time. It is not a place where you pick and choose. Edited by Jade, 28 Jun 2015, 23:47.
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Your approval is neither desired nor required. Julia Smith "We decided to go for a realistic, fairly outspoken type of drama which could encompass stories about homosexuality, rape, unemployment, racial prejudice, etc., in a believable context. Above all, we wanted realism". | |
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| Sey | 28 Jun 2015, 23:47 Post #66 |
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I am sure he would have been court-martialed but the writers couldn't come up with cockney rhyming slang for the term for Dyer to spout, so the story was changed. |
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| Jade | 28 Jun 2015, 23:52 Post #67 |
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"My currant bun is doing bird" |
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Your approval is neither desired nor required. Julia Smith "We decided to go for a realistic, fairly outspoken type of drama which could encompass stories about homosexuality, rape, unemployment, racial prejudice, etc., in a believable context. Above all, we wanted realism". | |
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| Mrs Peel | 28 Jun 2015, 23:52 Post #68 |
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Unfortunately, I don't think enough research went into what constitutes an army career, other ranks or otherwise, as much as piss poor research went into what constitutes a teaching career. We weren't even sure what Ava's duties were. Originally, she was an assistant head. In Walford, she appeared to be a classroom teacher, but classroom teachers aren't allowed days off to grade papers. And it seemed that during half-terms, she was obliged to run a DayCare at the community centre. I grant you, and I've said it before, that Lee should, most likely, be in accommodation in barracks. He also would not be able to refuse a posting overseas on the strength or weakness of his girlfriend whining that she might not behave herself if he left. That was piss poor, indeed. Until recently, it seems that no one came up with any sort of viable reason why Lee was always about the pub, working at the pub, and no one was certain of his status. As he was about to be deployed to Jordan, I'd say he is regular Army and not reserve, but the plumbing course, which seems to have gone by the wayside, indicated he may have been getting ready to be de-mobbed. Now, it seems he's in recruitment, but that would still mean as an Other Rank, he'd have to live in military accommodation unless he were married. The fact that his military job is now being mentioned is probably due to the depression storyline coming up, which will eventually see him being discharged from the Army on military grounds. Neither Lee nor Ava were presented very well as professionals with careers off Albert Square, but then we never see Charlie working at the car lot - and who would buy a car from someone like Charlie? We've never seen either of The Blisters, when Ronnie could at any sort of job, and I cannot believe Ronnie earns a fortune from a Boxing Club. The only people we've seen working are people who work on the market, and then the sod off at the drop of a hat. |
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| BigApe | 28 Jun 2015, 23:53 Post #69 |
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Thats what I thought tbh. |
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| Cam | 29 Jun 2015, 02:30 Post #70 |
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Looking forward to this. I hope it's not sensationalised down the road but I won't hold my breath on that front. I like Danny-Boy, but I understand completely why he isn't everyone's cup of tea. Who knows, this could be the storyline to prove his worth. However, another Carter storyline? Why not give this storyline to Jay? |
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| Mr Carter | 29 Jun 2015, 03:37 Post #71 |
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I don't think Danny-Boy is poor by any means but then again I don't expect any critical thinking from all the "Carter bias". He may not be on the level of Adam Woodyatt or Jake Wood but he is still a very good young actor learning his trade on TV away from his already established and successful background in Theatre. Those scenes when he first returned and spoke to Mick about what had happened back in Afghanistan were fantastic and very real, and if he can keep that level of quality and consistency up he will be just fine. |
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| Sey | 29 Jun 2015, 10:39 Post #72 |
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Excuse me? Who do you think you are? Pipe down with this kind of childish behavior, attacking people who don't agree with you is the lowest form of communication. Doing it passively doesn't make it any more respectable. Edited by Sey, 29 Jun 2015, 11:23.
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| NevermindMe | 29 Jun 2015, 17:43 Post #73 |
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Surely not the best way to enforce rules? Your post in itself is incredibly rude and belittling - "pipe down". If you take grievance with this post, please liaise with Ennui before you ban as I don't think pointing out rudeness is against the rules. Edited by NevermindMe, 29 Jun 2015, 17:44.
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| Jade | 29 Jun 2015, 18:04 Post #74 |
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Anyway back on topic I do wish they had picked a different character for a big story. But it will evoke sympathy thus be harder to criticise in my view. He is the weakest of the Carters but I guess it will explain why he is never at work anymore. |
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Your approval is neither desired nor required. Julia Smith "We decided to go for a realistic, fairly outspoken type of drama which could encompass stories about homosexuality, rape, unemployment, racial prejudice, etc., in a believable context. Above all, we wanted realism". | |
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| Mr Carter | 29 Jun 2015, 18:16 Post #75 |
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Exactly, if I have broken the rules then you can moderate without belittling and banning me in the same process. I didn't attack anyone personally as I was only pointing out there is clear bias in the forum towards the Carters whenever they seem to get a story. Nothing else. If, somehow, you interpreted that it was a personal attack then that's fine but I assure you I wasn't. I really do feel like mods take sides with certain posters because they are "friends" away from the forum and this isn't the first time I've experienced this, I've been banned numerous times before whilst the other said posters were just in the wrong as I was. It's a shame really but I've come to accept it. Edited by Mr Carter, 29 Jun 2015, 18:19.
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| Ennui | 29 Jun 2015, 19:19 Post #76 |
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I've got my eye on you
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Can I remind everyone that it is against the rules to discuss moderation on the forum. While we appreciate that everyone has an opinion, moderation issues may NOT be the topic of discussions, no matter how strongly you feel about what may or may not have happened to yourself or another poster. Very often other members are not aware of situations that have transpired if threads and posts have had to be deleted. The Moderation team is NOT at liberty to discuss such matters on the forum threads. Please keep on topic. |
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| Blades' receptionist | 29 Jun 2015, 20:45 Post #77 |
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I have high hopes for Lee. Nancy is slowly starting to be known for more than 'the girl that works in her mum and dad's pub' so Lee needs to be more than 'Whitney's boyfriend and the Carter son that was in the army'. Lee's got enough backstory for this to be able to be written and Danny-Boy has shown his emotional acting on a couple of occasions, which have been very good. |
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| D28 | 30 Jun 2015, 11:53 Post #78 |
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Sharon Marshall said on This Morning she was down watching filming recently and said Danny Boy was sensational as was Shona. |
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| Desdemona | 30 Jun 2015, 15:38 Post #79 |
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Just relieved to hear we have a realistic story coming up. And Lee's background and character/ personality lends itself really well to a depression storyline. Looking forward to this. |
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| ChrissieW | 30 Jun 2015, 19:44 Post #80 |
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I think Danny-Boy is definitely talented, it's just a question of whether or not his skill-set fits EastEnders; some actors are simply better suited to the stage. I'm really hoping that he delivers because I want Lee to come good and I think his couple with Whitney actually has a lot of potential. I can see them getting married and living in their own flat and staying together for years and years.
Edited by ChrissieW, 30 Jun 2015, 19:49.
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