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Eastenders Set
Topic Started: 10 Aug 2015, 13:43 (2,642 Views)
Planck
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Looks like it is still occurring-

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/entertainment/bbc-to-demolish-eastenders-set-690361.html

I wonder, when it is finished being built, how it will be explained on-screen?
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RadioIan
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Sounds like plans for a 'temporary set' may have been scrapped, with the new set being built where the temporary one would have been.
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RadioIan
10 Aug 2015, 15:30
Sounds like plans for a 'temporary set' may have been scrapped, with the new set being built where the temporary one would have been.
Seems so. I wonder how the tower block vanishing will be dealt with. Just ignored or mentioned its been bulldozed.
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Dave Sullivan
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I imagine the changes will not be highlighted heavily onscreen unless the set upgrade includes obvious changes to established onscreen locations but the new areas of onscreen Walford will likely be places referenced onscreen prior to the onscreen switch from the old set to the new set. The original planned temporary set will be the new set.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a662720/walford-revitalised-eastenders-to-introduce-brand-new-areas-when-shows-set-is-upgraded.html
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Dave Carter
10 Aug 2015, 15:59
I imagine the changes will not be highlighted heavily onscreen unless the set upgrade includes obvious changes to established onscreen locations but the new areas of onscreen Walford will likely be places referenced onscreen prior to the onscreen switch from the old set to the new set. The original planned temporary set will be the new set.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a662720/walford-revitalised-eastenders-to-introduce-brand-new-areas-when-shows-set-is-upgraded.html
Well the area of the temporary set will be but the original plan for the temporary set was just the square and the market.
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basdfg
10 Aug 2015, 16:00
Dave Carter
10 Aug 2015, 15:59
I imagine the changes will not be highlighted heavily onscreen unless the set upgrade includes obvious changes to established onscreen locations but the new areas of onscreen Walford will likely be places referenced onscreen prior to the onscreen switch from the old set to the new set. The original planned temporary set will be the new set.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a662720/walford-revitalised-eastenders-to-introduce-brand-new-areas-when-shows-set-is-upgraded.html
Well the area of the temporary set will be but the original plan for the temporary set was just the square and the market.
That was the original plan but I suspect the cost of building two sets, for only one to remain in use was deemed unnecessary.
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The Local Butcher
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Definitely makes sense to forego the temporary set. It always sounded like a waste of money to essentially rebuild the square twice. Emotionally it makes sense to want to rebuild everything in it's original location but from a pragmatic standpoint when you're faced with the reality of having to film Eastenders from an Albert Square that's in the wrong location for an extended period of time no matter what you do, there's really no reason not to just make what was going to be the temporary location into the new permanent location.
Edited by The Local Butcher, 10 Aug 2015, 16:42.
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basdfg
10 Aug 2015, 15:40
RadioIan
10 Aug 2015, 15:30
Sounds like plans for a 'temporary set' may have been scrapped, with the new set being built where the temporary one would have been.
Seems so. I wonder how the tower block vanishing will be dealt with. Just ignored or mentioned its been bulldozed.
I always thought the tower block (Walford Towers) was a fake backdrop on a billboard...
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Forest11
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I wonder if once the New SET is open the old set can be opened for a little while for visits like Corrie is currently doing.
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Michelle Fowler,Ice Skater
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I think the launderette will go,moved on from when Ethel,Willy and Pauline worked there,EVERYONE used to drop their clothes off their so there was a scene there every episode and Ian,'Chelle,Sharon and Kelvin used it as a hangout
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Ennui
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I've got my eye on you

Planning application for new set.

http://www6.hertsmere.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=NRL8PZIFGFC00
You can't just come bounding in here like John Wayne on a Spacehopper!

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So they're getting rid of George Street and adding a super market and coffee shop, whilst building all houses to have an interior hence the 20% increase of size so interior scenes will become interior scenes. Much more practical I guess.

I guess the do away with George Street will be explained by developers buying the land? I don't know how they'll explain that one.
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Shamelessness
10 Aug 2015, 19:36
basdfg
10 Aug 2015, 15:40

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I always thought the tower block (Walford Towers) was a fake backdrop on a billboard...
"Walford Towers" is Canterbury House, located off Eldon Avenue in Borehamwood, which is where the back exit / entrance to BBC Elstree Centre is located - hence why you can see it in the background of Albert Square. It is very close to Neptune House, aka Holby City.
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NevermindMe
10 Aug 2015, 21:52
So they're getting rid of George Street and adding a super market and coffee shop, whilst building all houses to have an interior hence the 20% increase of size so interior scenes will become interior scenes. Much more practical I guess.

I guess the do away with George Street will be explained by developers buying the land? I don't know how they'll explain that one.
Also an overground station instead of an underground, and a supermarket. Looks like they're getting rid of the police station too (which unless I'm mistaken is currently situated behind the Masood house). I can't see the allotments or the park anywhere either.
Edited by Shamelessness, 10 Aug 2015, 22:10.
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When The Bill first moved set in 1987 there was no departure point. At the start of series 3 they were in a new set and the only hint of the change in dialogue was one character commenting on the new state of the art computer room. I think in the mid 90's the characters visited "the old station" which was actually the old building so the canon explanation was finally revealed that they had moved.

But in 1989-1990 when The Bill moved set again they explained it as the station being renovated. Builders were seen in the background and often you'd see a character walking down a corridor on the old set, turning a corner, and suddenly they'd be on the new set. The old set vanished more and more until it was gone completely. They could try something similar to this with EastEnders although as its a community not a police station they'd have to come up with a slightly more believable explanation. Perhaps this recent mention of a redevelopment could suffice.

It never really felt right to me when it was mentioned that a possible temporary set could be built. Seems a pretty odd thing to do to me and such a waste of money. I thought that the best idea would be to build the new set in time to coincide with the closure of the current set and just move. I really hope that indoor scenes are filmed in their actual interiors. I remember reading that Brookside used real houses because although it would cost a bomb to do that the maintenance costs down the years would work out cheaper.

What does everyone feel about the set closure on an emotional level?
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The Local Butcher
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As people have noticed certain areas of Walford seem to be vanishing altogether. That's because the new Albert Square is being build in a different smaller location which is why it was only ever originally intended to house a temporary set rather than a permanent one.

Here's the important part. There's a huge plot of land simply marked as area to be used for future film and television production. This is where the set currently stands. Entirely new parts of Walford will eventually be build here following the completion of the new permanent lot and the demolition of the current set.
Edited by The Local Butcher, 11 Aug 2015, 08:21.
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Markus
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While the idea of a temporary lot never sat right with me either, I can't help feeling that this is a bit of a compromise to save money while the BBC is going through hard times and increased scrutiny. The new lot is smaller so they're having to lose parts of it completely. The old lot will allow them to create new parts of Walford but they're still only getting about half that space.

Mind you, I have always thought that trying to connect every bit of Walford that we saw on screen was to the show's detriment. Getting to see beyond Turpin Road and George Street and could add some much needed realism. What will we see though? Presumably the police station and allotments will be there. Won't be sorry to see the back of that tiny looking park set though if that never returns!

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Shamelessness
10 Aug 2015, 22:07
NevermindMe
10 Aug 2015, 21:52
So they're getting rid of George Street and adding a super market and coffee shop, whilst building all houses to have an interior hence the 20% increase of size so interior scenes will become interior scenes. Much more practical I guess.

I guess the do away with George Street will be explained by developers buying the land? I don't know how they'll explain that one.
Also an overground station instead of an underground, and a supermarket. Looks like they're getting rid of the police station too (which unless I'm mistaken is currently situated behind the Masood house). I can't see the allotments or the park anywhere either.
Well the station has always been an overground station just that it is an underground train.
I'd be surprised if they scrapped the police station entirely. Being so small it could be put anywhere on the lot
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The Local Butcher
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Wasn't the whole idea to build something that was bigger and bit more future proof. The BBC doesn't want to spent too much money so now we end up with a new set that's actually smaller along with a second set that's completely unconnected from the first. Uh... why are we doing this again?

Ideally they should have just left Elstree and build a completely new complex elsewhere like Corrie did. They're going to build this only to realise it's still not what they really need and have to leave anyway a couple of years later. A classic case of doing something on the cheap that's ultimately going to cost way more than just doing it properly the first time.
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I also thought the tube station at Walford East was an over ground station.
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