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Another departure...Spoilers
Topic Started: 17 Aug 2015, 20:45 (10,107 Views)
Christina
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Gavinlessness
17 Aug 2015, 21:42
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17 Aug 2015, 21:38
There must be a Steven Beale return surely?

Not surprised about this - I think this just leaves Cora left as the only character introduced in the years DTC was absent (as in BK and LN era).
Don't forget Denny, quietly biding his time, sitting in the kitchen eating a biscuit, until he's ready to become a supervillain.

And the atrocious Les Coker.
Sharon should set Denny on Bobby and have them fight to the death!
I didn't think it was possible but Les is getting worse! Although I still find him strangely endearing!
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I'm of the opinion that she'll be back. At least with Lola, who also had potential, she had been used sparingly for months beforehand so the writing was on the wall. Cindy's departure is a bolt from the blue. I don't rate the actress so it's not me clinging desperately to some hope, I just get the impression she'll be back. She has form for running away, so poor Liam will probably be left to learn Deutsch on his own.

In what circumstances she'll return, I'm not sure. I have the feeling that the Lucy SL will now be hoarded between the "A-listers" now that Sharon knows and Kathy is back, so Cindy may well return in the aftermath of the truth coming out and quickly move onto non-Lucy SL's. Plus, Lauren is another one who knows the truth and is due for a return and she's higher up in the pecking order than Cindy.

Part of me hopes Mimi Keene has chosen to leave as a fake departure would be another twist for the sake of a twist IMO.
Edited by AGavinIsMyLife, 17 Aug 2015, 21:51.
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I'm not that fond of the character but I didn't like the way she was written out. Just leaving at the Tube station seemed like such a waste.
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DTC is slowly wiping out every last iota of Birkwood or Newman.

Cora is at risk if you ask me, we hardly see her as it is...
Denny will be recast at somepoint soon.
Les was reintroduced from being a guest so he's technically a DTC creation, re: personality, backstory etc.

All others are either long serves, returns under DTC or his own creations:

Long servers: Ian, Sharon, Dot, Phil, Carol, Billy, Patrick, Denise, Max, Abi, Jay, Shirley
Former DTC/Santer creations: Ronnie, Roxy, Tamwar, Masood, Whitney, Kim, Fatboy
BK/LN creations: Cora
DTC returns: Sonia, Shabnam, Jane, Stacey, Dean, Les, Ben, Martin, Kathy
DTC Creations: Tina, Linda, Mick, Nancy, Charlie, Lee, Donna, Pam, Kush, Buster, Vincent, Claudette, Carmel and Paul

It's clear that he's very fond of his 'own' characters that he's either built upon from his original reign, reintroduced or created entirely...
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I thought Shirley was one of DTCs first creations? Didn't he say that on his WW interview?
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17 Aug 2015, 21:58
I thought Shirley was one of DTCs first creations? Didn't he say that on his WW interview?
He did. Jay arrived in the same month so he could also be s DTC creation. Denise, Max and Abi are all Santer creations.
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I'm a bit gutted about this. I thought she was a future star and young leading lady in the making. I know she could be very raw at times but the potential is definitely there. I'll miss Cindy.

I'm a bit gutted for the Beale family too. Tbh I'm slightly worried about them for a number of reasons even though this is the most interesting Jane has ever been and the most relevant Ian has been in a long time. Their future does worry me though

I feel like the cast DTC inherited plus the creation of the core Carters plus a few strong returns such as Stacey and Jane was an IMMENSE cast to be proud of. Don't get me wrong the cast is still good but I feel like we've lost and are still to lose some really good people while DTC'S additions don't really convince me on the most part. This cast isn't as strong as 2014.

But still our Messiah and Saviour is soon to be upon us and Autumn sounds like it should be good so I won't dwell.

Good luck to Mimi Keene. She has star quality and I hope to see her do well. :cheers:
Edited by WalfordCommon, 17 Aug 2015, 22:02.
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17 Aug 2015, 21:59
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17 Aug 2015, 21:58
I thought Shirley was one of DTCs first creations? Didn't he say that on his WW interview?
He did. Jay arrived in the same month so he could also be s DTC creation. Denise, Max and Abi are all Santer creations.
Denise, Max and Abi were Kate Harwood :)

Santer took over in the episodes aired shortly after Pauline Fowler's funeral.
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17 Aug 2015, 21:59
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17 Aug 2015, 21:58
I thought Shirley was one of DTCs first creations? Didn't he say that on his WW interview?
He did. Jay arrived in the same month so he could also be s DTC creation. Denise, Max and Abi are all Santer creations.
Weren't they the EP before Santer?

Edit: been answered
Edited by Jill-Sandwich, 17 Aug 2015, 22:12.
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17 Aug 2015, 22:00
I'm a bit gutted about this. I thought she was a future star and young leading lady in the making. I know she could be very raw at times but the potential is definitely there. I'll miss Cindy.

I'm a bit gutted for the Beale family too. Tbh I'm slightly worried about them for a number of reasons even though this is the most interesting Jane has ever been and the most relevant Ian has been in a long time. Their future does worry me though

I feel like the cast DTC inherited plus the creation of the core Carters plus a few strong returns such as Stacey and Jane was an IMMENSE cast to be proud of. Don't get me wrong the cast is still good but I feel like we've lost and are still to lose some really good people while DTC'S additions don't really convince me on the most part. This cast isn't as strong as 2014.

But still our Messiah and Saviour is soon to be upon us and Autumn sounds like it should be good so I won't dwell.

Good luck to Mimi Keene. She has star quality and I hope to see her do well. :cheers:
Gavin wont be a regular through until February or March apparently. I think the autumn will have a large focus of Hubberds vs Mitchells rather than direct focus of Kathy and Gavin.
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So, how many female teen characters do we have now?

2015 has been axing lots of characters and there's still 4 months left.
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I'm surprised Cindy is gone because DTC is very vocal about Mimi
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17 Aug 2015, 22:08
So, how many female teen characters do we have now?

2015 has been axing lots of characters and there's still 4 months left.
Only Rebbeca and Abi. Nancy is 21 and Whitney nearly 23.
Ben is I think the only teen guy as Jay is 20 I think and Paul seems at least 21.
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17 Aug 2015, 22:02
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17 Aug 2015, 21:59

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Denise, Max and Abi were Kate Harwood :)

Santer took over in the episodes aired shortly after Pauline Fowler's funeral.
Oh, my mistake, got my years mixed up!
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17 Aug 2015, 21:05
Well Ian wasn't that close with Martin,he grew up with Mark,Michelle,Sharon and Kelvin,I doubt he considers Martin and Rebecca family
Ian certainly does consider Martin family. When Martin was homeless, Ian allowed him to stay in the Beale home. He works for Ian on the family stall. Martin was much younger than Ian. In fact, Martin was closer to Vicki, his niece, than his older cousin. The Martin-Vicki dynamic was similar to the Lucy-Ben or Peter-Ben relationship.

It's hard to believe, but Bianca is both the aunt and first cousin twice removed of Rebecca. She's also the first cousin of Peter, Lucy and Bobby. This is why so much fuss was raised about the Tiffany-Bobby puppy love association. They were cousins - first cousins once removed.

A lot of times, the writers are at fault for forgetting certain relationships - like Ian bears the same relationship to Liam that Max does - both are his great-uncles.

And that Roxy Mitchell is still married to Sean Slater.
Edited by Mrs Peel, 17 Aug 2015, 23:26.
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17 Aug 2015, 23:24
Gavin Sullivan,Ice Skater
17 Aug 2015, 21:05
Well Ian wasn't that close with Martin,he grew up with Mark,Michelle,Sharon and Kelvin,I doubt he considers Martin and Rebecca family
Ian certainly does consider Martin family. When Martin was homeless, Ian allowed him to stay in the Beale home. He works for Ian on the family stall. Martin was much younger than Ian. In fact, Martin was closer to Vicki, his niece, than his older cousin. The Martin-Vicki dynamic was similar to the Lucy-Ben or Peter-Ben relationship.

It's hard to believe, but Bianca is both the aunt and first cousin twice removed of Rebecca. She's also the first cousin of Peter, Lucy and Bobby. This is why so much fuss was raised about the Tiffany-Bobby puppy love association. They were cousins - first cousins once removed.

A lot of times, the writers are at fault for forgetting certain relationships - like Ian bears the same relationship to Liam that Max does - both are his great-uncles.

And that Roxy Mitchell is still married to Sean Slater.
Roxy would've got a divorce years ago.
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Roxy and Sean are divorced, Roxy could get a divorce because her and Sean had been separated and he hadn't been in contact. Also she's been married since then.
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Did she not officially marry Alfie
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Roxy married Alfie so I hope she got a divorce from Sean somehow!

The Ian/Liam connection has annoyed me this past week. I've been waiting for "Max is my uncle" "Great uncle, and so am I!"
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DTC just tweeted "Goodbye to our brilliant Mimi Keene and James Forde-go take the world by storm. xxx"

I won't be surprised at all if Miss Keene will be on a US series by next spring if she wants that. She certainly has "the look."
Edited by TimWil, 18 Aug 2015, 00:26.
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