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Another departure...Spoilers
Topic Started: 17 Aug 2015, 20:45 (10,112 Views)
Mrs Peel
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I actually do think he knows what he did. This isn't a small child. He was 10 years old at the time he did what he did, and he's not unintelligent. Kids can be pretty sly. He panicked after he hit her and she wouldn't wake up so he called Jane. Ian called it perfectly in the live episode.

Jane was thinking to calm him down and said exactly what he wanted her to say - to go to bed and she would help Lucy. Since then, they've been maintaining this fiction, and Bobby's been eavesdropping all their frantic, secret converstations, making himself known at appropriate moments just in time to get them on track and get them to re-affirm his innocence.

I worry that this storyline is backing itself into a corner. This is a tragedy that needs resolution, but the show has got to get back on track in the sense that people who kill do have to be punished.Bobby does need to either go to a Young Offenders', Jane does, indeed, need imprisonment - she's committed a major crime; but then, there are so many others who have committed major crimes, still swanning about the Square. Ian Beale's greatest fear in life is being alone, bereft of all family; yet Ian Beale is probably the most Oedipal character in the British soap genre at the moment, so it's only mete that he end up in the company of his mother.
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Planck
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The Other Slater Cousin
20 Aug 2015, 13:59
Gavin's Planck
20 Aug 2015, 13:45
I'm glad she left. She could have been so much better if played by a better actress.

I do wonder what is going to happen to the Beales though. Both Jane and Bobby, particularly Bobby, have a shelf-life.

Hopefully, when Peter returns, he brings back Steven with him. I think Ian, maybe Jane, with Peter, Steven and Kathy could be a really interesting unit.
Bobby definitely doesn't have a shelf life. He didn't mean to kill his sister. He doesn't even know he did it. Someday, he will find out and that will set up stories that could take him into his 20's and beyond. I'd say this storyline has made Bobby more important than he ever was before, because he's central to such a huge story, they need to put effort into the character.

As for Jane, I'm not sure. I'm not calling for her to get put in prison because I feel like she's living her punishment everyday. But if this story is to end in some way in the future l, it'll probably end with Jane going to prison.
I think Bobby does have a shelf-life, at least temporarily. I see Bobby a lot like Ben. Ben didn't mean to kill Heather but it happened and he went to prison for it. I reckon once the truth comes out, Bobby will go to prison, possibly for a similar amount of time as Ben, and then come out even darker than he was.

As for Jane I'm not calling for her to go to prison either but I do think it will happen. A few months ago I would be calling for Jane to go to prison but these last couple of weeks have done wonders for her and Laurie Brett has been outstanding.
Edited by Planck, 20 Aug 2015, 17:06.
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Desdemona
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EE is nurturing a potential psycho in the making. Bobby may come in handy when he is older (if they want to raise the issue of violence) or we may simply have to forget about him killing Lucy (since a child always enjoys the benefit of 'innocence'). The ambivalence in writing allows EE to have it both ways.
Edited by Desdemona, 20 Aug 2015, 17:52.
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Planck
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Mr Branning
20 Aug 2015, 14:15
I think the Beales are at their most interesting but also most warped and that makes them seem as if they have an expiry date. Can we honestly picture an "ordinary" Beale living room in 10 years time given what's happened?

What's interesting is, depending on your perspective, Bobby is the only innocent in this. From his viewpoint (and I don't believe he's a psychopath or knows what he did), he hit his sister during an argument. The rest of the family have become so unhinged in trying to preserve his innocence.

I just struggle to see how we ever get away from this storyline. It's obviously going to define the Beale's during DTC's tenure but whoever replaces him has a hell of a job making this family one I can root for again. Not even Kathy has that power.
I disagree that Bobby is innocent in all of this. Even if he did not know what he did he almost put a brick through Max's car window, threatened Phil with a baseball bat and pushed his "sister" over in the same place that his actual sister died. He can also make people feel pretty uncomfortable like with Sharon in Tuesdays episode.
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Daniel68
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20 Aug 2015, 13:57
Do you have other characters that you like?
Oh yeah, there's plenty of characters I still like in the show, but a lot of my favourites have gone this year.
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TimWil
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Bobby almost put a brick through Max' car window because he thought Max killed Lucy. He talked crap about Ben because at that moment he thought BEN killed Lucy. I maintain that Bobby is one f**ked up little kid but he doesn't know he killed Lucy. This gives the writers more to work with for the moment when he DOES find out. I'd like it to be another "surprise" present under the Christmas tree which tells him he did it. I assume Ian and Jane will confiscate the ones that Cindy posts.
Edited by TimWil, 20 Aug 2015, 20:33.
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JimRRR
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I liked Cindy, but I knew she was leaving. I saw an announcement somewhere about her departure
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