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What would you do with Stacey?
Topic Started: 21 Aug 2015, 09:16 (8,297 Views)
Mrs Peel
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What happened was the usual over-egging in which this EP and his chief cohorts can't seem to resist. It wasn't enough that we seemed to get genuine character progression with Stacey, when she seemed more mature and responsible. I have never liked Stacey, and yet I found myself liking her a lot this time around, until ... the weird attraction to Kush.

For weeks, we saw Stacey actively encouraging Shabnam in being more receptive to Kush's attentions, then we had that drunken kiss on Kush's part, when he was being rejected by Shabnam (so he, effectively, was on the rebound), and - Bob's your uncle! - somehow, Stacey's always had this attraction to Kush. That's when she appeared to revert to smacked-bumface mode, and when she started using Martin whilst pining after Kush, even to the point of telling Kush he had to choose between the woman carrying his baby or Stacey.

TPTB just couldn't resist putting another affair Stacey's way, with yet another man in a committed relationship. They had to score their hattrick, which is neither clever nor dramatic, but rather repetitive, trite and ruinous to the character.

It simply shows a lack of imagination.
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Daniel68
21 Aug 2015, 12:21
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21 Aug 2015, 12:10
IMO Lacey is too good to be axed I would rather she quit instead
She's a good actress yes, but she's nowhere, nowhere near as good as people make her out to be. And the character is so overrated it's silly. The way everyone fawns over Lacey/Stacey is actually quite scary.
She was fantastic in the episode when Stacey was sectioned. Lacey is not scary at all.
Edited by Mormon Girl, 21 Aug 2015, 16:24.
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21 Aug 2015, 12:19
Daniel68
21 Aug 2015, 09:36
Axe.
I second this :wave:
Aren't you a fan of Stacey then?
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The Other Slater Cousin
21 Aug 2015, 14:28
It's such a shame what has happened to her over the past few months. Her return last September was, to be honest, possibly my idea of a perfectly orchestrated return. She settled in slowly. She was involved in a lot, but also so little. We saw her trying to live a normal life, and get caught up in all these other people's dramas along the way. She'd matured and that showed in her interaction with other characters.

Where did it go wrong? The past few months have really took a sword to her character. Sullen and snappy, treating Martin like dirt, the whole Kush...thing. She was on such an excellent path. I was waiting for her to get with Martin and to see that grow naturally whilst her key storyline played alongside it. I'm really disappointed by how they have just thrust her into such a badly thought out situation. Sometimes less is more.

Block storytelling is definitely a massive issue. We need scenes of Martin and Stacey actually being happy together. Him making her laugh. Her trying to cook tea. How can any of us get invested in a relationship where, if there's no conflict or drama, they simply aren't there at all. It's really damaging the show, and in many ways Stacey's move from 2014 into 2015 is symbolic of how patchy the show has gotten this year generally, after the absolute masterpiece of 2014.
If only Bradley didn't die then Im sure he could make her smile but if he was still alive then at least Stacey wouldn't be with Martin.
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Mormon Girl
21 Aug 2015, 16:19
She was fantastic in the episode when Stacey was sectioned. Lacey is not scary at all.
If you think she was then that's fine. And I never said she was.
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Daniel68
21 Aug 2015, 16:32
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21 Aug 2015, 16:19
She was fantastic in the episode when Stacey was sectioned. Lacey is not scary at all.
If you think she was then that's fine. And I never said she was.
When you said Lacey/Stacey I thought you meant Lacey.
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Mormon Girl
21 Aug 2015, 17:18
Daniel68
21 Aug 2015, 16:32

Quoting limited to 2 levels deep
When you said Lacey/Stacey I thought you meant Lacey.
No, I was meaning people's obsession with her and giving her as many plaudits as is humanly possible. That's scary
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The overexaggeration of the way people 'fawn' over Lacey is one of the most annoying things about the forum. It's bullshit. All of the Lacey/Stacey fans on here will happily criticise as well as praise her. I'm not sure why the same few posters feel the need to not only constantly slate her, but her fans as well.

I don't like Shirley but I don't feel the need to accuse her fans of wearing rose tinted glasses just because they like her.

As for what I'd do with Stacey? I'd give Lily an illness and show Stacey and Martin struggling to be strong for her. That's gritty drama. If Lily then died, we could have Stacey go completley off the rails again.

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The irony is that I see more moaning about people who are fans of Stacey than I actually see people actively post about liking the character.

I would consider myself a big fan of both the character and Lacey, but I literally just posted highlighting how unlikable Stacey is right now, as did many others, so the idea that by liking a character you are instantly a giddy fangirl who isn't capable of critical thinking is, quite honestly, bullshit.
"I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver
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21 Aug 2015, 17:32
The irony is that I see more moaning about people who are fans of Stacey than I actually see people actively post about liking the character.

I would consider myself a big fan of both the character and Lacey, but I literally just posted highlighting how unlikable Stacey is right now, as did many others, so the idea that by liking a character you are instantly a giddy fangirl who isn't capable of critical thinking is, quite honestly, bullshit.
Exactly. I am such a fan of Stacey and Lacey as well, yet only yesterday I posted about how all Stacey does at the minute is whinge and that the writing for her is appalling. I must be viewing a different forum, because you'd think the whole forum constantly wet themselves with excitement when she comes on screen by the way the same few (and it is the same few) posters act.

I honestly don't know why people think fan baiting is acceptable. I don't really appreciate people making out as if I'm a brain dead fanboy who has Lacey Turner pictures plastered on my walls.

Please mods, make a rule about this. It only ever seems to be about Lacey fans as well.
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I'm sorry if it feels like I exaggerate it, but at times it feels like this is StaceyWeb rather than WalfordWeb. I would argue that she gets discussed on here far more often than any other character, and you only have to look at the character rates to see how popular the character is. That's fine, but I just feel she is hugely overrated and adds nothing to the show. As I've said, the actress is okay but to me isn't in the same league as Coulson, Henry, Woodyatt, Wood, McFadden, Brett, Di Angelo, Parish, Bright or Mitchell. That's just my opinion and I won't pass it off as fact (something else I seem to find common with Stacey's fans). I feel like some people think the character is bigger than the show.

I understand that it's all opinions and that's fine of course. I also understand that doing anything other than worshipping Stacey/Lacey is basically treason on here. :)
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Daniel68
21 Aug 2015, 17:41
I'm sorry if it feels like I exaggerate it, but at times it feels like this is StaceyWeb rather than WalfordWeb. I would argue that she gets discussed on here far more often than any other character, and you only have to look at the character rates to see how popular the character is. That's fine, but I just feel she is hugely overrated and adds nothing to the show. As I've said, the actress is okay but to me isn't in the same league as Coulson, Henry, Woodyatt, Wood, McFadden, Brett, Di Angelo, Parish, Bright or Mitchell. That's just my opinion and I won't pass it off as fact (something else I seem to find common with Stacey's fans). I feel like some people think the character is bigger than the show.

I understand that it's all opinions and that's fine of course. I also understand that doing anything other than worshipping Stacey/Lacey is basically treason on here. :)
Even in this post alone you have managed to exaggerate the amount of praise she gets and again slate people for worshipping (also know as liking a character in a fictional TV show) someone YOU don't like.
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21 Aug 2015, 17:44
Even in this post alone you have managed to exaggerate the amount of praise she gets and again slate people for worshipping (also know as liking a character in a fictional TV show) someone YOU don't like.
I suppose I'm just getting it wrong then. My apologies.
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I'm in the kitchen eating a biscuit
Matt Di Angelo BETTER than Lacey Turner?

Funniest thing I've read all week. :lol:
Massive thanks to NickM for this wonderful signature! :)

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21 Aug 2015, 18:23
Matt Di Angelo BETTER than Lacey Turner?

Funniest thing I've read all week. :lol:
Yes. I think so. And by quite some way. Fine if you disagree but to laugh and ridicule at someone's opinion is quite cruel, unnecessary and upsetting.
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I actually spit out my drink reading that. I understand Stacey might not be "flavour of the month" right now but in NO way is Di Angelo better than Lacey Turner. She is definitely, if not very close to, in the leagues of Coulson and Henry.
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Well I disagree.
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21 Aug 2015, 18:51
Gavross
21 Aug 2015, 18:23
Matt Di Angelo BETTER than Lacey Turner?

Funniest thing I've read all week. :lol:
Yes. I think so. And by quite some way. Fine if you disagree but to laugh and ridicule at someone's opinion is quite cruel, unnecessary and upsetting.
It's also cruel, unnecessary and upsetting for you to make the assumption that everyone on the forum has a shrine to Stacey in their living room and 1000 photos of her on their phones, whilst also assuming that we all think the sun shines out of her arse and think she's EastEnders answer to Jesus, but que sera sera.
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It's perfectly fine for you to prefer Matt as an actor. It's all subjective. But what's not fine is implying that everyone is some kind of giggling lunatic over a fictional character. I'm baffled as to how you think this at all. There's absolutely nothing on here to back up that view.

Funnily enough, there's been very little discussion about Stacey at all for weeks until this thread. Not really sure what "StaceyWeb" you're talking about.
"I loved it in the Olden Days because you talked more. There’s more action now. You know, we would do scenes in the Rovers of me, Bet and Doris Speed with a cup of coffee each before we opened the pub, talking about absolute rubbish. But it was something, and it was what people do." - Betty Driver
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See You Gavin
21 Aug 2015, 19:01
It's also cruel, unnecessary and upsetting for you to make the assumption that everyone on the forum has a shrine to Stacey in their living room and 1000 photos of her on their phones, whilst also assuming that we all think the sun shines out of her arse and think she's EastEnders answer to Jesus, but que sera sera.
I don't assume that and I have never said that. Like I said, I believe people overrate her, but I never said what you just have. Now who's exaggerating people's comments?
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